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International News Presentation: Past and Present

(February 2007)

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GR
German Rudnev
mark posted:
Channel One, Russia, 2009:

^^^ This is an entirely virtual set, right? Shocked Shocked


No, it isn't. Everything is real.
If you need something to prove it, so: as a Russian, I watch their news regularly and could spot that they are playing Sky News feed on one of that 'little' screens on the back.
If the set was virtual, the feed would go repeated all over again.

Also: they couldn't take shots then from other angles, as they do.
NW
nwtv2003
BBC - One O'Clock News, December 1986, Philip Hayton's first edition, with feedback from producers/directors..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqhEpjOf__A&feature=channel
TI
timgraham
[quote="WW Update" pid="617456"]
It's always interesting to me that big, multiculural European countries such as the UK, France, Germany, etc., don't have much -- if any -- national or sub-national TV news in immigrant languages (Arabic, Chinese, Turkish, Urdu, Hindi, etc.)

In many cases, European immigrant communities still have access to television programming in their languages, of course, but it's not really national or regional programming tailored to where they live. In most cases, it's just international programming piped directly from their countries of origin. Perhaps that contributes to the problems some European immigrants have fitting in?

If immigrant radio stations can work in Europe, why not TV?


It's much the same case in Australia, particularly the big cities like Sydney or Melbourne where up to a quarter of people are first-generation migrants, where because there is so much diversity it's difficult to appeal to a single group.

So instead we have a publicly funded broadcaster which is meant to appeal to those communities (as well as the rest of the country) and rebroadcasts something like 15 foreign news bulletins every morning.

I suppose it's just much cheaper to do that than produce something specifically - and let locally run newspapers fill in the gap. There is a multilingual radio network, though.
AB
ABC Australia
Tim you've forgotten the Community TV Stations, there are quite a few programs that cater to a multicultural/multiethnic niche on those stations.
GO
gottago
KTSF Channel 26 San Diego I think Catonese News Open October 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdr7BYjxYlE


Great find! It's San Francisco, by the way.

It's always interesting to me that big, multiculural European countries such as the UK, France, Germany, etc., don't have much -- if any -- national or sub-national TV news in immigrant languages (Arabic, Chinese, Turkish, Urdu, Hindi, etc.)

In many cases, European immigrant communities still have access to television programming in their languages, of course, but it's not really national or regional programming tailored to where they live. In most cases, it's just international programming piped directly from their countries of origin. Perhaps that contributes to the problems some European immigrants have fitting in?

If immigrant radio stations can work in Europe, why not TV?


Has the BBC ever done foreign language programming aimed at eithnic minorities in the UK? I can't think of any and the only example I can think of is a programme that's on TV Ark which was aired in the Granada region.

I can only think that the BBC are scared at the backlash they might receive from doing this. It can't be about cost since they could quite easily simulcast 15 minutes or so of BBC Arabic or BBC Persian on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon on BBC2.
DE
deejay
BBC Birmingham used to make a programme (which was networked I think) called "Asian Magazine" at Pebble Mill in the mid 80s. As far as I recall, the links were in English but many performances were in other languages.
Here's a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLXSNFI-LZk&feature=player_embedded

Leaving aside Scots Gaelic and Welsh programming, that's the only example I can think of. I gather some BBC local radio stations produce occasional news bulletins in minority languages.
NW
nwtv2003
deejay posted:
Leaving aside Scots Gaelic and Welsh programming, that's the only example I can think of. I gather some BBC local radio stations produce occasional news bulletins in minority languages.


BBC Radio Manchester does usually have some output in Chinese, usually on a Sunday night, not too sure whether they still do this.
LE
Lester Founding member
Backlash: We live in Great Britain where the main language is English? Surely by making tailored programmes in foreign languages this is encouraging them not to bother learning the language?
HC
Hatton Cross
BBC - One O'Clock News, December 1986, Philip Hayton's first edition, with feedback from producers/directors..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqhEpjOf__A&feature=channel


It's a wonder he did so many after that. That was shambolic. And worse, the long pauses from Phillip show the viewer that it was all at sea in the control gallery.

Starts off with a very withering put down in the opeing titles by the director and goes downhill from that point.
No live stories, vt going walkabout in the system, running order changes thrown in at the last minute and most surprisingly captions and photos come on air without a cue from the director (see 1.38 in), there seems to be very little attempt to steady the broadcast by taking stock during the vt inserts and let the brains catch up with the surge of adrenalin running through the programme.

A good find though.
WW
WW Update
mark posted:
Channel One, Russia, 2009:

^^^ This is an entirely virtual set, right? Shocked Shocked


No, it isn't. Everything is real.
If you need something to prove it, so: as a Russian, I watch their news regularly and could spot that they are playing Sky News feed on one of that 'little' screens on the back.
If the set was virtual, the feed would go repeated all over again.

Also: they couldn't take shots then from other angles, as they do.


Thanks for the clarification. It's certainly an impressive set!
WW
WW Update
Backlash: We live in Great Britain where the main language is English? Surely by making tailored programmes in foreign languages this is encouraging them not to bother learning the language?


At the risk of starting a political debate, I would argue that if you support assimilation, multilingual television actually makes sense. Many recent immigrants -- particularly older ones -- will seek out television news in their languages in any case, so isn't it preferable that the TV news they watch originates in their newly adopted country and covers issues relevant to that country's society than if their only option is satellite-delivered news from their "old countries" thousands of miles away?
RE
remlap
Local news broadcast from Channel 9 Dunedin, New Zealand.

http://www.ch9.co.nz/content/9-local-news-webcast

Well that theme sure sounds familiar.

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