The Yorkshire & Lincolnshire Thread

NO, NO, NO, huddy!!! The three Ridings of Yorkshire were abolished in 1974 and replaced by North Yorkshire (containing most of the North Riding, plus parts of the East and West Ridings), West Yorkshire (the central part of the old W. Riding - Leeds, Bradford and environs) and South Yorkshire (the southern part of the old W. Riding - Sheffield, Doncaster and environs)

Most of the old East Riding, along with Northern and North Eastern Lincolnshire, became part Humberside in 1974. HCC was abolished in 1996 and replaced by 4 unitary authorities (Hull City, E. Riding of Yorks, N Lincs and NE Lincs) but Humberside as a county STILL exists (unlike the 3 Ridings of Yorkshire which were abolished in 1974 and lost forever), since there is still a Humberside police force and fire brigade.

The Middlesbrough/Redcar area of the old North Riding became part of Cleveland in 1974. Cleveland still exists in the same sense as Humberside but it is a county in the North East England region and not in the Yorkshire and the Humber region. The people of Cleveland feel they are in the North East and are in the North East!!!

Finally, the south bank of the Tees in Teesdale formerly part of the old North Riding of Yorkshire (near Barnard Castle in Co Durham) became (rather logically, IMO) part of County Durham. Sedbergh in the old W. Riding became part of Cumbria; the Forest of Bowland, Barnoldswick and Earby (formerly in the W. Riding) became part of Lancashire and Saddleworth (formerly in the W. Riding) became part of Greater Manchester. All of this happened in 1974.

To sum things up: The county of Yorkshire made up of 3 Ridings does not exist any more and hasn't done so for nearly 30 years!!! To think that it does means you're stuck in the past!!!

York is in North Yorkshire, not Yorkshire; Leeds is in West Yorkshire, not Yorkshire; and so on.

Apologies for lengthy post but there was a lot to explain.

It's accepted that the three Yorkshire counties can be referred to as one by the term "Yorkshire" - so York is in Yorkshire, as is Leeds and Sheffield.

And on that note, do you honestly think that YORKshire television isn't supposed to be the main provider of commercial television (ie ITV) in the city of York?

That's just a mistake made by many people. West, South and North Yorkshire are three seperate and quite distinct counties. North Yorkshire in particular is very different from either West or South Yorks. N. Yorks (including York - which is very different from anywhere in West or South Yorks) has more in common with Co Durham and Cleveland in North East England than with W. or S. Yorks (or other counties in the Yorks and the Humber political region).



After living in York for two years with Tyne Tees as my ITV, I feel that TTTV should be (and practically is) the main ITV company in North Yorkshire (including the City of York).

YTV is based in Leeds, WEST Yorkshire and doesn't cover North Yorkshire nearly as well as TTTV. For me, Calendar (on Emley Moor) is too orientated towards West and South Yorkshire, whereas North East Tonight on TTTV covers North Yorkshire much better than YTV.

A Solution:

The Settle/Ingleton area of N Yorks (which only gets Granada/BBC North West) would become part of Lancashire in the North West England political region.

The Skipton/Wharfedale area of N Yorks (which only gets YTV/BBC Yorks & Lincs) would become part of West Yorkshire in the Yorkshire and the Humber political region.

The Selby district of N Yorks (with the exception of Tadcaster which would become part of the Harrogate district of N Yorks, as would the W. Yorks town of Wetherby) would also become part of West Yorkshire.

The remaining area of North Yorkshire (City of York, Harrogate, Richmondshire, Hambleton, Ryedale and Scarborough districts) would become part of the North East England political region, thus reinforcing Tyne Tees and BBC North East and Cumbria as the main TV providers for the county.

BBC Radio York would then officially become part of BBC North East and Cumbria. The Heyshaw (in Nidderdale, near Harrogate), Hunmanby (near Filey), Oliver's Mount (serving Scarborough) and Weaverthorpe (serving the village of the same name near Scarborough) transmitters would be switched over to relay Bilsdale, so the whole of North Yorkshire would have the correct TV region (Tyne Tees and BBC North East and Cumbria).

Following the above changes, YTV and BBC Yorks and Lincs would cease to cover North Yorkshire.

I'm sorry but I know a few people who have/still do live in York and they wanted Yorkshire rather than Tyne Tees, having a natural affinity with Yorkshire.

Someone I work with can get either Yorkshire or Tyne Tees in very good quality, but would never watch Tyne Tees.

Of course people with access to Digital Satelite will soon be able to chose which region they watch without restriction.

Oh shut up - it's not a mistake at all. If people want to refer to the area north of the Midlands as a whole, they call it Yorkshire. Indeed, most people from these cities (Leeds, York, Sheffield) would tell people that they were from YORKSHIRE if they were asked.

I should know, I've just spent the last 3 years of my life in Leeds. I did some work for YTV and they certainly consider York their territory.

And we don't need any solutions, because there is not a problem to fix.

And why must you CARRY on about the same thing over and over.

Get a life...

Well it looks like something is definally happening on Calendar

Geoff Druett presented Calendar Lunchtime News from the soft set, looking uncomfortable on the soft chairs whilst reading the main news. Andrew Knight did Sunday's programme from a bulletin studio probably to avoid looking funny on those chairs

The soft set plasma is being used for all the usual graphics which usually appear on the vertical plasma on the desk area

It looks to me that they are building a new desk set for next week?

I think you mean they have a natural affinity with West or South Yorkshire. Some people in York do but most don't like to associate themselves with Leeds or Sheffield and have more in common with Co Durham and Cleveland.



There's a prime example of people making the mistake of saying that Yorkshire is one county which it isn't. As I said in an earlier post, the county of Yorkshire (made up of three Ridings) was abolished in 1974 and NO LONGER EXISTS!!!



No, Leeds is in WEST Yorkshire and you obviously are still oblivious to the fact that North Yorkshire (including the City of York) is different from West and South Yorkshire and has more in common with Co Durham and Cleveland.

Yes, YTV does claim to cover York (they also claim to cover Whitby which can't even receive YTV!!!) but Tyne Tees also covers York and does so very well. In fact, TTTV cover York more often than YTV do.



Yes, there is a problem to fix. There are too many fingers in the North Yorkshire pie (YTV/BBC Y&L and TTTV/BBC NE&C) and if the solutions I proposed in my previous post were taken up, then North Yorks would be better covered by broadcasters who are aware of the county's outlook (i.e. that it is more like Cleveland and Co Durham than W or S Yorks).



Because YOU brought it up by irritating me with the comment "David, how can you claim that York is covered by NE&C and TTTV?" and you are still oblivious to the fact that BBC NE&C and TTTV cover York (and most of North Yorkshire) and that N.Yorks is different from W and S Yorks.



Already got one, thank you. Why don't you "get a life"?

Better still, why don't you disappear altogether and stop irritating people like you've irritated me?

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I don't mean that at all. I stick with what I originally said. I have met these people, you haven't.. If you look at what I said, it reads an affinity with Yorkshire, rather than Tyne Tees, in this case Yorkshire meaning YTV!!!

Well, that's their loss, Simon. Your friends are obivously unaware of the better coverage of North Yorkshire (including the City of York) offered by Tyne Tees.

Please, let's end this TV in North Yorkshire discussion for once and for all. You lot don't live in the county, I do, so I know what TV is best and that is TTTV and BBC NE&C.

Can i just but in here and say David, you really are becoming a bore with all this.I'd like to point out that all your rantings are 'in your opinion', as too are Aston's (well the're in his opinion). The point is you have two differing views, yet you seem to find it nessecery to start a slangging match if someone dissagrees with you, and quite frankly I get the feeling that quite a number of people are getting iritated by you. So, by your own rules maybe you should bugger off. Of course I'm not suggesting you do but at least try to be a little more toralent of people with a differing view to yourself. All that was asked was a simple question on why you think that York is covered by BBC North East and Cumbria and Tyne Tees. Okay technically your not wrong and your going to disagree with everyone that says that YTV/BBC Y&L cover it better, but do you have to go off on one and start haveing a tantrum over it?

On another note, is there another city in North Yorkshire besides York?

Yes, it's called Ripon, aka "The Cathedral City of the Dales". Most people here are tuned to Bilsdale (BBC NE&C/TTTV).

I'm all for ending this (as I'm sure is everyone else). I will not accept though that "you know best". You've made your choice over who you want to watch, let others free to make that choice for themselves.