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Larry the Loafer
Inspector Sands posted:
You are confusing 'automatic playout' with unattended playout. Every TV channel has automation playing out their programmes, and that's been the case for about 20 years; but only a few of the very cheapest, little watched channel will have no human intervention at all.


There's a clip on Youtube of a BBC One cock-up after Breakfast when it simply wouldn't go away. Trailers kept trying to play and ended abruptly etc. Somebody commented saying this was due to the Beeb trialling automatic playout but the result was that. Unless the user was talking nonsense, how does that work?
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JAS84
David posted:
In other news, the Pointless missing episodes mystery has finally been solved...
http://www.facebook.com/ChallengeTV/posts/221370897918557

The Adultnature mystery remains as such.
Ugh, that guy has admitted to having multiple accounts - they should ban him from Facebook.

As for Pointless,
Quote:
For example, the facts have been challenged or the answers are no longer relevant.
In that case, at least one Wipeout episode needs to be banned as well. A question was about which comic characters were over 50 years old. Among the Wipeouts were Dennis the Menace and Biffo the Bear, two Beano characters who started in 1951 and 1948 respectively and were under 50 at the time (mid 90s) but are now older than that and would now be correct answers! In fact, that question now has no valid Wipeouts at all.
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Inspector Sands
Larry the Loafer posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
You are confusing 'automatic playout' with unattended playout. Every TV channel has automation playing out their programmes, and that's been the case for about 20 years; but only a few of the very cheapest, little watched channel will have no human intervention at all.


There's a clip on Youtube of a BBC One cock-up after Breakfast when it simply wouldn't go away. Trailers kept trying to play and ended abruptly etc. Somebody commented saying this was due to the Beeb trialling automatic playout but the result was that. Unless the user was talking nonsense, how does that work?

I seem to remember that that incident was when they'd just moved into their current playout centre, which like the one before it and the one before that had a few teething troubles.

As to why that happened, obviously I don't know for certain. Presumably the automation froze and wouldn't move onto the next event, and either there wasn't adequate manual control or that wasn't working either. TX suites normally have an 'emergency cut' panel that overrides what the automation is doing - cutting things directly to air. The old BBC suites had a vision mixing desk and emergency panel, not sure what they have now. The other possibility is that the director was locked in the loo, but that's unlikely

Remember, the BBC has had automated playout since 1995! 'Automatic playout' it wouldn't have been, not on a channel as complicated and important as BBC1. On almost all channels, live events such as news are usually the only thing done manually, for obvious reasons
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 23 September 2011 10:42am - 2 times in total
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JasonB
Just realised that Challenge are using the Bargain Hunt theme for the Pointless advert.

Also, is that Tumble Tower in the Churchill sponsor ads? "Connect B1 to B7" Laughing
Last edited by JasonB on 24 September 2011 5:58pm
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David
JAS84 posted:
As for Pointless,
Quote:
For example, the facts have been challenged or the answers are no longer relevant.
In that case, at least one Wipeout episode needs to be banned as well. A question was about which comic characters were over 50 years old. Among the Wipeouts were Dennis the Menace and Biffo the Bear, two Beano characters who started in 1951 and 1948 respectively and were under 50 at the time (mid 90s) but are now older than that and would now be correct answers! In fact, that question now has no valid Wipeouts at all.


I'm not sure it is a case of being 'banned'. It is obvious that Challenge don't have a problem with showing programmes that contain out of date questions. Your Wipeout example is just one of many you could have mentioned. I expect it is Endemol and/or the BBC that won't allow those particular episodes to be broadcast so as not to damage the Pointless brand. After all, who is going to pay for someone to go through the programmes and make sure there are no out of date questions? I'm sure it won't be Challenge.

I expect in a few years when it is more obvious to the casual viewer that the programmes are old, they will be allowed to show these episodes again. At the moment, some viewers could mistake them for current episodes that include an erroneous question or two.

JasonB posted:
Also, is that Tumble Tower in the Churchill sponsor ads? "Connect B1 to B7" Laughing


B1 (BBC One) to B7 (BBC News)? What could that even mean? I guess Churchill could be talking about a bulletin such as the six that is going out on B1 and B7? Oh Yeees!

Anyway, that reminds me. It is Tumble Tower's birthday on Friday. He will be 0x28 (40)
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IM
JasonB posted:
Just realised that Challenge are using the Bargain Hunt theme for the Pointless advert.


The song is called Horny Baby and is by Dust Devil.
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Put The Telly On
David posted:
Anyway, that reminds me. It is Tumble Tower's birthday on Friday. He will be 0x28 (40)


It's also mine (not 40 though). Myself and Mr Tumblebot have exchanged long words.
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Westy2
David posted:
JAS84 posted:
As for Pointless,
Quote:
For example, the facts have been challenged or the answers are no longer relevant.
In that case, at least one Wipeout episode needs to be banned as well. A question was about which comic characters were over 50 years old. Among the Wipeouts were Dennis the Menace and Biffo the Bear, two Beano characters who started in 1951 and 1948 respectively and were under 50 at the time (mid 90s) but are now older than that and would now be correct answers! In fact, that question now has no valid Wipeouts at all.


I'm not sure it is a case of being 'banned'. It is obvious that Challenge don't have a problem with showing programmes that contain out of date questions. Your Wipeout example is just one of many you could have mentioned. I expect it is Endemol and/or the BBC that won't allow those particular episodes to be broadcast so as not to damage the Pointless brand. After all, who is going to pay for someone to go through the programmes and make sure there are no out of date questions? I'm sure it won't be Challenge.

I expect in a few years when it is more obvious to the casual viewer that the programmes are old, they will be allowed to show these episodes again. At the moment, some viewers could mistake them for current episodes that include an erroneous question or two.


Why not shove a caption up along the lines of 'Certain information has changed since this programme was recorded' ?
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Westy2
Just watching one of the later Krypton Factors featuring Gordon Burns & Penny Smith.

What age was Penny admitting to at this point?(GMTV 'running joke' of being 37 for several years ISTR!)

Was this Penny's first network TV appearance?
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Larry the Loafer
Westy2 posted:
Just watching one of the later Krypton Factors featuring Gordon Burns & Penny Smith.

What age was Penny admitting to at this point?(GMTV 'running joke' of being 37 for several years ISTR!)

Was this Penny's first network TV appearance?


Terrestrial, maybe, but I'm sure she was on the Sky Television 'network' on Sky News before this.
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rob Founding member
Westy2 posted:
Just watching one of the later Krypton Factors featuring Gordon Burns & Penny Smith.

What age was Penny admitting to at this point?(GMTV 'running joke' of being 37 for several years ISTR!)

Was this Penny's first network TV appearance?


Penny anchored the first news bulletin on Sky News in 1989, alongside Alastair Yates.
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David
Does anyone know why Challenge changed the opening titles to some episodes of Takeshi's Castle?

It seems that these titles...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvnuE0NnQoQ&t=1m07s
have been replaced a slight variation of these titles...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzPIYtHqCFI
which judging by the DOG are used in other countries too.

The episodes that have had their opening titles replaced have not had the audio description changed, so you can hear the description of the old titles while watching the new ones.

In other news, someone has uploaded the clip of Clive James taking part in Takeshi's Castle. Sadly the audio is badly out of sync.

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