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Good Morning Britain - 2015 Refresh/Tweaks

(January 2015)

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PI
pip2
GMc posted:
Kate IS a main presenter. Don't you get this?


No, Kate is a stand in. The 'main' presenters are Susanna, Ben, Charlotte and (formerly) Sean.


Who are you to confirm who is and isn't a "main" presenter? Kate can hardly be called a stand-in, when she appears as much, or more that some of the others. Bosses are clearly pushing her back to the top, with the side-lining of Charlotte and Sean.


As someone that doesn't watch the show too regularly, my interpretation is that Ben and Susanna have always been billed as main presenters (ie they were in the middle of PR shots, and who the hype was initially about) with Charlotte & Sean secondary presenters.

Kate is primary cover for Ben/Susanna, and Ranvir next in line to cover if both are off.


Aren't they all just co-presenters? There's no mention of main, primary, secondary or stand-in the 'meet the team' section of the website or any of the bumph. This idea of hierarchy "next in line" / "back to the top" / "side-lining" exists only in your heads doesn't it?
WH
Whataday Founding member
As far as labelling each role is concerned, of course it is pure speculation (along with 99% of comments on this thread). But it is possible to take an educated guess based on who has covered who, and how the line-up comes across on screen.

In terms of the initial launch, I'd say nearly every single photo of the team had Ben and Susanna in the centre, foreground with Charlotte and Sean either side slightly further back.
SJ
SamJPayne14
I think that Good Morning Britain should go back to the 4 presenter format, a nice big sofa, limited graphics and a longer programme maybe till about 9 ish. And I think it should have more audience interaction like Good Morning America with high-profile guests and singers etc. I might design a graphic/mock to show all this.
SN
The SNT Three
I think that Good Morning Britain should go back to the 4 presenter format, a nice big sofa, limited graphics and a longer programme maybe till about 9 ish. And I think it should have more audience interaction like Good Morning America with high-profile guests and singers etc. I might design a graphic/mock to show all this.


Welcome to the forum Rolling Eyes

Read back over this thread, other members have bought up all the above suggestions and there are reasons why all of the above is not going to happen.

There isn't the appetite for OTT American-style breakfast programming. Four presenters with unclear and undefined roles can be seen as too much - don't get me onto the American Today show with their 400 presenters! What's more, they won't extend it because Lorraine's show afterwards rates much better. They won't increase audience interaction because UK viewers tend to just want the news, travel, weather and a bit of fluff. They won't get more high-profile guests and singers in because it's expensive, there isn't the budget for it. And you can change the graphics and studio all you like but that isn't really GMB's problem.
BR
Brekkie
GMc posted:
Kate IS a main presenter. Don't you get this?


No, Kate is a stand in. The 'main' presenters are Susanna, Ben, Charlotte and (formerly) Sean.


Who are you to confirm who is and isn't a "main" presenter? Kate can hardly be called a stand-in, when she appears as much, or more that some of the others. Bosses are clearly pushing her back to the top, with the side-lining of Charlotte and Sean.


It does look like Charlotte is being side-lined with Kate and Ranvir taking centre-stage. The bosses must be going by viewer feedback, it is the only explanation. I would be pretty unhappy if I was Charlotte, since returning from maternity leave she is like a spare part.

Which is actually illegal - people on maternity leave have a right to return to the role they were in before departing or something equivalent to it.
DK
DanielK
GMc posted:
Kate IS a main presenter. Don't you get this?


No, Kate is a stand in. The 'main' presenters are Susanna, Ben, Charlotte and (formerly) Sean.


Who are you to confirm who is and isn't a "main" presenter? Kate can hardly be called a stand-in, when she appears as much, or more that some of the others. Bosses are clearly pushing her back to the top, with the side-lining of Charlotte and Sean.


It does look like Charlotte is being side-lined with Kate and Ranvir taking centre-stage. The bosses must be going by viewer feedback, it is the only explanation. I would be pretty unhappy if I was Charlotte, since returning from maternity leave she is like a spare part.

Which is actually illegal - people on maternity leave have a right to return to the role they were in before departing or something equivalent to it.

Her role was minimal before she left and had been for months.
AN
Andrew Founding member
GMc posted:
Kate IS a main presenter. Don't you get this?


No, Kate is a stand in. The 'main' presenters are Susanna, Ben, Charlotte and (formerly) Sean.


Who are you to confirm who is and isn't a "main" presenter? Kate can hardly be called a stand-in, when she appears as much, or more that some of the others. Bosses are clearly pushing her back to the top, with the side-lining of Charlotte and Sean.


It does look like Charlotte is being side-lined with Kate and Ranvir taking centre-stage. The bosses must be going by viewer feedback, it is the only explanation. I would be pretty unhappy if I was Charlotte, since returning from maternity leave she is like a spare part.

Which is actually illegal - people on maternity leave have a right to return to the role they were in before departing or something equivalent to it.

Not if the role no longer exists. I've known people be made redundant whilst on maternity leave. Translating this to GMB it could be said 'there's been a restructure, there are no longer 4 equal hosts, just 2 main with a newsreader role'
AJ
AJ
Which is actually illegal - people on maternity leave have a right to return to the role they were in before departing or something equivalent to it.

Not if the role no longer exists. I've known people be made redundant whilst on maternity leave. Translating this to GMB it could be said 'there's been a restructure, there are no longer 4 equal hosts, just 2 main with a newsreader role'


Nope. If you go on maternity and return within the first 26 weeks (known as ordinary maternity leave) then you have the legal right to return to the same role with the same terms and conditions. If you take extended maternity leave (26 weeks+) then you don't have this right, but you are entitled to an equivalent role, with equivalent duties and pay.

It has to be handled very carefully to ensure that everything is being done in a complaint manner, otherwise you're open to tribunals and the like. More info at http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/statutory-maternity-leave-returning-to-work.
TV
TV Matters
AJ posted:
Which is actually illegal - people on maternity leave have a right to return to the role they were in before departing or something equivalent to it.

Not if the role no longer exists. I've known people be made redundant whilst on maternity leave. Translating this to GMB it could be said 'there's been a restructure, there are no longer 4 equal hosts, just 2 main with a newsreader role'


Nope. If you go on maternity and return within the first 26 weeks (known as ordinary maternity leave) then you have the legal right to return to the same role with the same terms and conditions. If you take extended maternity leave (26 weeks+) then you don't have this right, but you are entitled to an equivalent role, with equivalent duties and pay.

It has to be handled very carefully to ensure that everything is being done in a complaint manner, otherwise you're open to tribunals and the like. More info at http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/statutory-maternity-leave-returning-to-work.


Charlotte was the newsreader before and she is the newsreader now..
MU
Multi
I might design a graphic/mock to show all this.


For the love of god. Not another Good Morning Britain mock, please. Spare us the pain - and yourself.
RI
Richard
AJ posted:
Which is actually illegal - people on maternity leave have a right to return to the role they were in before departing or something equivalent to it.

Not if the role no longer exists. I've known people be made redundant whilst on maternity leave. Translating this to GMB it could be said 'there's been a restructure, there are no longer 4 equal hosts, just 2 main with a newsreader role'


Nope. If you go on maternity and return within the first 26 weeks (known as ordinary maternity leave) then you have the legal right to return to the same role with the same terms and conditions. If you take extended maternity leave (26 weeks+) then you don't have this right, but you are entitled to an equivalent role, with equivalent duties and pay.

It has to be handled very carefully to ensure that everything is being done in a complaint manner, otherwise you're open to tribunals and the like. More info at http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/statutory-maternity-leave-returning-to-work.


Just to point out that the above link refers to Northern Ireland law, although I imagine England and Wales is similar.
DV
dvboy
AJ posted:
Which is actually illegal - people on maternity leave have a right to return to the role they were in before departing or something equivalent to it.

Not if the role no longer exists. I've known people be made redundant whilst on maternity leave. Translating this to GMB it could be said 'there's been a restructure, there are no longer 4 equal hosts, just 2 main with a newsreader role'


Nope. If you go on maternity and return within the first 26 weeks (known as ordinary maternity leave) then you have the legal right to return to the same role with the same terms and conditions. If you take extended maternity leave (26 weeks+) then you don't have this right, but you are entitled to an equivalent role, with equivalent duties and pay.

It has to be handled very carefully to ensure that everything is being done in a complaint manner, otherwise you're open to tribunals and the like. More info at http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/statutory-maternity-leave-returning-to-work.


Just to point out that the above link refers to Northern Ireland law, although I imagine England and Wales is similar.

This is the equivalent in England and Wales: https://www.gov.uk/employee-rights-when-on-leave

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