The Newsroom

Granada Reports

From MediaCityUK (Split topic) (March 2013)

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Stuart
It is a better backdrop though IMO.

I agree, the newsroom view is far more professional.

The views of the quays is pointless: there are no significant landmarks, so it could be anywhere.

Furthermore, I always think that live window views look cheap: as if you can't be bothered even designing a set. Did Granada not learn anything from Daybreak v.1's disaster in Studio 7 at TLS?
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VMPhil
It is a better backdrop though IMO.

I agree, the newsroom view is far more professional.

The views of the quays is pointless: there are no significant landmarks, so it could be anywhere.

Furthermore, I always think that live window views look cheap: as if you can't be bothered even designing a set. Did Granada not learn anything from Daybreak v.1's disaster in Studio 7 at TLS?

Why would they need to? Daybreak's studio view was panned because it looked bad in the dark. Granada Reports airs at 6.30pm and when it's dark they move the view to the newsroom.
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Stuart
[quote="VMPhil" pid="909835"]
Why would they need to? Daybreak's studio view was panned because it looked bad in the dark. Granada Reports airs at 6.30pm and when it's dark they move the view to the newsroom.

But it looked equally bad when it was light.

It was described as looking like the foyer of a Premier Inn. I just don't see the point in making it obvious that you're presenting from converted space on the 10th floor of an office block, with a pointless view as your backdrop.

It's not clever, it just comes across as being cheap, lazy and unimaginative.

The only time these sort of views work, are for temporary studios in specific locations - such as on College Green, at Wimbledon, or the excellent ones used for the Olympics/Paralympics.
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VMPhil
Your general point is that all backdrop views are 'lazy' and at this we will have to agree to disagree.
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Ben Shatliff
[quote="Stuart" pid="909837"]
Why would they need to? Daybreak's studio view was panned because it looked bad in the dark. Granada Reports airs at 6.30pm and when it's dark they move the view to the newsroom.

But it looked equally bad when it was light.

It was described as looking like the foyer of a Premier Inn. I just don't see the point in making it obvious that you're presenting from converted space on the 10th floor of an office block, with a pointless view as your backdrop.

It's not clever, it just comes across as being cheap, lazy and unimaginative.

The only time these sort of views work, are for temporary studios in specific locations - such as on College Green, at Wimbledon, or the excellent ones used for the Olympics/Paralympics.


I preferred the Salford Quays backdrop to the superimposed newsroom view currently being used. They could be more imaginative and have a plasma screen in between the two presenters in front of the window or next to the presenter for the single news bulletins but again in front of the window; that way we see the backdrop but a still saying ITV Granada Reports or even a still of the story.

I suppose unlike the rest of the regions we have our own look in Granadaland which is good considering the ITV Generic style looks we have had in the past.

I do think though even during the day when it is sunshine they seem to prefer the plasma screen in front of the wall rather than using the window.

I say they need to decide what they want; either window and all during the summer or during daytime or design a new set which can be used all year round with a regular backdrop or just traditional studio sets like in the past.
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Jon
I preferred the Salford Quays backdrop to the superimposed newsroom view currently being used.

It's real!

I suppose unlike the rest of the regions we have our own look in Granadaland which is good considering the ITV Generic style looks we have had in the past.

Not really you just have something that's closer to the current corporate look.
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Ben Shatliff
[quote="Jon" pid="909890"]
I preferred the Salford Quays backdrop to the superimposed newsroom view currently being used.

It's real!


I know it is real I just wish they would use it Smile
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Andrew Founding member
It is possible to have a window and a set as well though, that's where Granada are going wrong. The second incarnation of Daybreak with set elements that can be used in certain shots can make a dull background look interesting.
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Jon

I know it is real I just wish they would use it Smile

No the newsroom backdrop is real!
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Stuart
Jon posted:

I know it is real I just wish they would use it Smile

No the newsroom backdrop is real!

Jon - Shatliff isn't accepting that BOTH the views are real, just one is better than the other.
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Ben Shatliff
Jon posted:

I know it is real I just wish they would use it Smile

No the newsroom backdrop is real!
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Maybe I am confused then; I though the newsroom backdrop was superimposed on to the window. Are you saying they do turn the shot around and what we see is not just a backdrop and the newsroom is really behind the presenters?

Please explain.
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chris
Jon posted:

I know it is real I just wish they would use it Smile

No the newsroom backdrop is real!
.

Maybe I am confused then; I though the newsroom backdrop was superimposed on to the window. Are you saying they do turn the shot around and what we see is not just a backdrop and the newsroom is really behind the presenters?

Please explain.


They literally swap the whole set around. Behind the cameras is the view of Salford.

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