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(November 2013)

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LL
London Lite Founding member
I noticed Outside Source also covered the Tube strike on the 9pm bulletin.
GM
Gary McEwan
I noticed Outside Source also covered the Tube strike on the 9pm bulletin.


Was it during the World break? As it's usually a UK story they put in the for viewers on the NC...
HB
HarryB
I noticed Outside Source also covered the Tube strike on the 9pm bulletin.


Was it during the World break? As it's usually a UK story they put in the for viewers on the NC...

Yes, the Tube strike piece was during the World break. The Budget however had a full report on the program before World went to break.
SN
The SNT Three
The problem I see with simulcasting Outside Source is that it isn't at all clear that it's an international news programme being simulcast on BBC World. If they had just stuck in World News Today every night, I think there would be less complaints - as it's branded as such, a world news bulletin. Some might argue that it's actually a good thing to have some world news in the evening schedule.

This has been noted in a Guardian article too.

Quote:
You can already see the weakening of the service in the “refreshed” BBC News evening schedule when a completely different world agenda with an energetic man and a touchscreen wings in at 9pm and at midnight we are given what seems to be a breakfast show for the Far East from Singapore.
DO
dosxuk
Outside source sticks out like a sore thumb. I think its quite a nice programme, but it doesn't fit into the NC schedule very well. Although saying that, in a way I think it'd be nice to have more editions of it - but kept to the back half hour, with the first half hour a normal NC programme.

I do wish it was a bit more like advertised ' raw access to the BBC's network of feeds and correspondents' - it feels very over produced, more like we're watching a clever PowerPoint presentation than actually accessing the BBC's resources.
SN
The SNT Three
They could do worse than simulcasting the 6.30pm edition from World instead, after the BBC News at Six has provided a domestic view of things. Then have 2 hours of news followed by World News Today and Hardtalk in the 9pm hour (sorry for getting a little Mock Schedule-y).
SR
SomeRandomStuff
They could do worse than simulcasting the 6.30pm edition from World instead, after the BBC News at Six has provided a domestic view of things. Then have 2 hours of news followed by World News Today and Hardtalk in the 9pm hour (sorry for getting a little Mock Schedule-y).

At 6:30 it would be Focus on Africa for half of the year or World Business Report / Sportsday / a load of filler crap for the rest. Unless your Mock Schedule included a recorded edition of OS on a 30 minute delay? Wink

If NC does go, then i would hope they would at least relax the "not for domestic consumption" rules and allow World News to air in its entirety sans adverts and sponsors.
SN
The SNT Three
They could do worse than simulcasting the 6.30pm edition from World instead, after the BBC News at Six has provided a domestic view of things. Then have 2 hours of news followed by World News Today and Hardtalk in the 9pm hour (sorry for getting a little Mock Schedule-y).

At 6:30 it would be Focus on Africa for half of the year or World Business Report / Sportsday / a load of filler crap for the rest. Unless your Mock Schedule included a recorded edition of OS on a 30 minute delay? Wink


In which case, I don't really understand why they have extended the later edition to 60 minutes - I imagine a 30 minute edition would be a lot easier to stomach!
IL
i-lied
I think the reason for that is because it replaces a full hour bulletin on the NC. Although, equally they could just use the standard back half hour programmes from WN with Ros providing headlines from the balcony in between but it does seem to work and they can extend coverage on stories, which isn't often on WN, only during other branded programs that last 90 minutes in duration.
RK
Rkolsen
Out of curiosity why do the 6 & 10PM broadcasts come from the regular news channel studio? I would think for the "flagship" broadcasts you would want to do something to distinguish them from the rest of the days newscasts and come from the grander and more versatile studio B. There are just so many ways the nights stories could be expressed much like they are done on GMT, IMPACT, Global and News Night.

The only issues I can think of that would cause trouble scheduling wise would be News Night which comes on right after the 10 PM newscasts but I assume the show is taped? Or even if the show was live I heard one of the benefits to studio b I the capability of multiple broadcasts. You could have the close news at the desk and after weather the open of News Night at the curved wall.

I know studio b doesn't have the furious but do they use the robotic Shotoku or is it all manual pedestal (possibly with robotic heads)? If it's manual then I can understand some limitations when it comes to staffing.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Newsnight is live, and I can't imagine they would appreciate having their rehearsal time cut!

It also removes flexibility - if the Ten starts late (following live sport for example) BBC 2 would have to wait until the Ten was off air before Newsnight could start.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
Out of curiosity why do the 6 & 10PM broadcasts come from the regular news channel studio? I would think for the "flagship" broadcasts you would want to do something to distinguish them from the rest of the days newscasts and come from the grander and more versatile studio B. There are just so many ways the nights stories could be expressed much like they are done on GMT, IMPACT, Global and News Night.

The only issues I can think of that would cause trouble scheduling wise would be News Night which comes on right after the 10 PM newscasts but I assume the show is taped? Or even if the show was live I heard one of the benefits to studio b I the capability of multiple broadcasts. You could have the close news at the desk and after weather the open of News Night at the curved wall.

I know studio b doesn't have the furious but do they use the robotic Shotoku or is it all manual pedestal (possibly with robotic heads)? If it's manual then I can understand some limitations when it comes to staffing.

For the 10pm bulletin I believe B is being occupied by Newsnight setting up/rehearsing, C by World News and D by London (with A being the CSO studio). From memory for 6pm bulletin B is occupied up until 6pm by World News, and D used by London.

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