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noggin Founding member
As for why more people watch Breakfast than GMB :

* Adverts
* Competitions that treat the audience as moronic cash-cows
* Less predictable schedule (within 30 minutes of watching Breakfast you'll have seen local and national news, local and national weather and something else of interest)
* More 'in your face' presentation (whilst lots of us here like all the bells and whistles being thrown at a show - sometimes less is more for a bleary-eyed audience)


Those factors are nothing new though, and have been present when ITV breakfast performed a lot better, even in the later, post phone-in scandal days of GMTV.

Yep - but by then the BBC had started morphing the post-Breakfast News version of Breakfast (which was still quite serious) into a much warmer, simpler and less formal offering.

Breakfast News was a pretty heavyweight watch for that time of the day - and at one point had an hour of Business News 0600-0700 (which was probably a pretty big turn-off for a lot of people - though not for everyone - and the team that made it did their best to make it less dry than it had any right to be).

Against Breakfast News, GMTV had a pretty easy ride (as had TVam before them towards the end of their franchise) - people would put up with the ads and the competitions to avoid being told at length what the Hang Seng and Dax were doing, and what the latest earnings forecast for Numpty Plc was...

Once Breakfast kicked in, and evolved to become even less formal in presentation style, but still with the 30 minute wheel, it became a much more watchable watch. Combine that with the disdain it was revealed that GMTV held its audience in (treating them as a cash cow effectively) with the phone vote scandal - and the tipping point was reached. By this point Breakfast was a better-GMTV than GMTV was, without ads and competitions, with a family of presenters that audiences liked, and with a style that didn't talk down to you, nor assume you knew everything. It's presentation style to some of us may appear conservative, but it's not being made for TV production fans...
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Andrew Founding member
Exactly, the fact the BBC are always going on about ‘the famous red sofa’ shows that Breakfast is basically now just a slightly more serious version of early 00s GMTV. You never had any of that until Bill Turnbull took over.

The lack of adverts and ridiculously inoffensive vanilla content in between the core news and weather means we will be in this era for many years to come. Breakfast will probably be identical to now in 10 years time.
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itsrobert Founding member
BBC Breakfast has always been a bit 'vanilla' in the past decade or so but what made it bearable was the pairing of Bill and Sian. Jeremy Bowen and Sophie Raworth were always a bit 'awkward', Dermot Murnaghan and Natasha Kaplinsky were better, but the dream team was definitely Bill and Sian. I don't think the programme has ever been better than it was under their leadership.

Breakfast is, for me, not really cutting it as much anymore. I just cannot warm to the presenting team. Dan and Louise are inoffensive but are a bit 'nice' / 'vanilla'. Not exactly the sharpest of interviewers most of the time. Charlie is more of a heavyweight interviewer with a bit of a grumpy persona - I do quite like that. He's probably my favourite at the moment. Naga has become very affected lately - someone commented recently about her sickly sweet handovers to various segments like the weather. Not really my cup of tea. And the supporting team aren't much better - Steph is a bit too 'matey' and some of the sports presenters do come across as a bit smug in my opinion - the exception being Mike Bushell who I have always liked.

Anyway, I have found myself straying to GMB and Sky News in recent years and watching a bit less of Breakfast. Compare that to 5-20 years ago and I wouldn't have even contemplated watching anything other than the BBC at breakfast.

Oh and before anyone starts - this is just my opinion on the performance of the presenting team as I see them on screen. In no way is it intended as a personal attack on any individual. It is merely my take on the programme as I see it.
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TVViewer256
BBC Breakfast has always been a bit 'vanilla' in the past decade or so but what made it bearable was the pairing of Bill and Sian. Jeremy Bowen and Sophie Raworth were always a bit 'awkward', Dermot Murnaghan and Natasha Kaplinsky were better, but the dream team was definitely Bill and Sian. I don't think the programme has ever been better than it was under their leadership.

Breakfast is, for me, not really cutting it as much anymore. I just cannot warm to the presenting team. Dan and Louise are inoffensive but are a bit 'nice' / 'vanilla'. Not exactly the sharpest of interviewers most of the time. Charlie is more of a heavyweight interviewer with a bit of a grumpy persona - I do quite like that. He's probably my favourite at the moment. Naga has become very affected lately - someone commented recently about her sickly sweet handovers to various segments like the weather. Not really my cup of tea. And the supporting team aren't much better - Steph is a bit too 'matey' and some of the sports presenters do come across as a bit smug in my opinion - the exception being Mike Bushell who I have always liked.

Anyway, I have found myself straying to GMB and Sky News in recent years and watching a bit less of Breakfast. Compare that to 5-20 years ago and I wouldn't have even contemplated watching anything other than the BBC at breakfast.

Oh and before anyone starts - this is just my opinion on the performance of the presenting team as I see them on screen. In no way is it intended as a personal attack on any individual. It is merely my take on the programme as I see it.

Very well said. What I intended to say in a nutshell
UT
Upload TV
Anyone know if there will be special presentation for the Oscars tomorrow as they did back in 2016?
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TVViewer256
Anyone know if there will be special presentation for the Oscars tomorrow as they did back in 2016?

Hope so, but probably not
UB
UBox
Looks like there will be some Oscars stuff.
2016 was quite over the top though and before they'd settled into their current format.

EDIT- Tweet not embedding https://twitter.com/errongordon/status/970325261274288130?s=19
Last edited by UBox on 4 March 2018 8:00pm
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alexhb01
https://twitter.com/sittingduckmus/status/970268245256220672?s=21

Looks like GMB will be getting a new or tweaked theme tune. It doesn’t specify GMB in the tweet but Sitting Duck have produced all of GMB’s music before.
Last edited by alexhb01 on 5 March 2018 12:31am
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DanielK




Looks like GMB will be getting a new or tweaked theme. It doesn’t specify GMB in the tweet but Sitting Duck have produced all of GMB’s music before.

As with a lot of ITV's themes lately...

Jumping to conclusions springs to mind.
BB
BBI45
Just in case anybody needs a reminder of 2016:


Also an opportunity to remind people that I would love to see the fading on of the lighting becoming a permanent feature of the intro. It creates such a nice effect IMO.
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TVFan2017
2016 was remarkably over the top but also a great watch, I can't see tomorrow being anything too special if we go by last years openers though!

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Brekkie
Depends on the news of the day really - at the moment they should be able to go into Oscars overload unless something major breaks overnight.

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