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http://f1.sky.com/?DCMP=BAC-251111#f1-coverage
Sky F1 website now launched, which appears to suggest the channel will mostly consist of replays and race highlights. Piecing together this site and the Telegraph article, it seems like Martin Brundle and Steve Rider will be fronting their own analysis shows and highlight programmes at prime time post-race and repeated during the week.
Better news for Sky customers who won't sign up to Sky Sports, if they have HD then they won't need to pay the 30-odd pound a month for Sport channels just to watch Formula 1. Personally I'm very glad to see Sky are really taking this seriously and pushing to compete with the BBC's excellent coverage. Only disappointment at the moment is that DC didn't join Brundle.
Sky F1 website now launched, which appears to suggest the channel will mostly consist of replays and race highlights. Piecing together this site and the Telegraph article, it seems like Martin Brundle and Steve Rider will be fronting their own analysis shows and highlight programmes at prime time post-race and repeated during the week.
Better news for Sky customers who won't sign up to Sky Sports, if they have HD then they won't need to pay the 30-odd pound a month for Sport channels just to watch Formula 1. Personally I'm very glad to see Sky are really taking this seriously and pushing to compete with the BBC's excellent coverage. Only disappointment at the moment is that DC didn't join Brundle.
SW
Well, no, most highlights shows these days are done on location - ITV's rugby coverage is an example - because it's presumably cheaper sending a camera or two then it would to set up the studio. I mentioned it earlier in this thread but a few months back they showed Diamond League Athletics on BBC3 where they took the international feed for the actual coverage but also had Jonathan Edwards and Colin Jackson there, and a single camera, so they could grab people for interviews and not have to fire up the studio at TVC.
In any case, surely they're not going to announce something like that if they haven't got the rights, they're not going to say otherwise. If anyone's interested, here's a list of where both chanels have presented the tournaments from in the past...
Up to Euro 88 - Everything from London
World Cup 90 - BBC were in London but they sent Des to link the quarter finals from the grounds - though still with a London studio as well - which he didn't enjoy and made a bit of a mess of, famously, and so they abandoned the idea, ITV had a studio in London but Elton Welsby also co-hosted the live games from the grounds
Euro 92 - BBC did everything from London, ITV did everything from Sweden, including the highlights and Saint and Greavsie on location
World Cup 94 - The BBC were in London until the final which they did from the ground, ITV were in a hideous studio in Dallas which could have been in London for all you could tell and it was a disaster
Euro 96 - BBC and ITV at the grounds for the games plus London studios for highlights
World Cup 98 - BBC had the studio in Paris from which they did everything, overlooking all the sights, ITV did most of the live games from the grounds but also had a Paris studio with fake "windows" for highlights (it was in Paris, though, you could fax in on a French number) and they presented England vs Argentina from there as well, although they did have a team at the ground, and Jim Rosenthal said he had to keep stopping Ian Wright flicking Vs at the Argentina fans
Euro 2000 - BBC and ITV did most of the games from the grounds but both had studios in Amsterdam for highlights and the less interesting live games
World Cup 2002 - BBC were in London but went out to Japan from the quarter finals, ITV were in London all the way through
Euro 2004 - BBC and ITV did the games from the grounds, but the Beeb had a Lisbon studio for highlights, while ITV were back in London
World Cup 2006 - BBC had the studio in Berlin for everything (repeating 1998) but did go to the grounds for some of the bigger games, ITV were at the grounds for the games but did the clashing matches and highlights from London, as well as the final for some reason
Euro 2008 - BBC had the studio in Vienna for everything, but the clashing matches came from London (in 2006 they did those outside the studio), ITV did everything from London
World Cup 2010 - BBC had the studio in Cape Town for everything (apart from the clashing matches which they did from a tiny, tiny studio in Johannesburg), ITV had the studio in Johannesburg for everything. Of course, as luck would have it ITV were doing the Cape Town semi live when Jim Beglin was ill and Clive Tyldsley had to do it on his own, whereas if they'd had the Johannesburg semi they could have sent a pundit over to join him.
BBC have confirmed they won't present the group stages of Euro 2012 on location. They will only go there if England or Ireland reach the later stages. Purely cost cutting, but wouldn't it be better to go there rather than present highlights of F1 races on location?
Well, no, most highlights shows these days are done on location - ITV's rugby coverage is an example - because it's presumably cheaper sending a camera or two then it would to set up the studio. I mentioned it earlier in this thread but a few months back they showed Diamond League Athletics on BBC3 where they took the international feed for the actual coverage but also had Jonathan Edwards and Colin Jackson there, and a single camera, so they could grab people for interviews and not have to fire up the studio at TVC.
In any case, surely they're not going to announce something like that if they haven't got the rights, they're not going to say otherwise. If anyone's interested, here's a list of where both chanels have presented the tournaments from in the past...
Up to Euro 88 - Everything from London
World Cup 90 - BBC were in London but they sent Des to link the quarter finals from the grounds - though still with a London studio as well - which he didn't enjoy and made a bit of a mess of, famously, and so they abandoned the idea, ITV had a studio in London but Elton Welsby also co-hosted the live games from the grounds
Euro 92 - BBC did everything from London, ITV did everything from Sweden, including the highlights and Saint and Greavsie on location
World Cup 94 - The BBC were in London until the final which they did from the ground, ITV were in a hideous studio in Dallas which could have been in London for all you could tell and it was a disaster
Euro 96 - BBC and ITV at the grounds for the games plus London studios for highlights
World Cup 98 - BBC had the studio in Paris from which they did everything, overlooking all the sights, ITV did most of the live games from the grounds but also had a Paris studio with fake "windows" for highlights (it was in Paris, though, you could fax in on a French number) and they presented England vs Argentina from there as well, although they did have a team at the ground, and Jim Rosenthal said he had to keep stopping Ian Wright flicking Vs at the Argentina fans
Euro 2000 - BBC and ITV did most of the games from the grounds but both had studios in Amsterdam for highlights and the less interesting live games
World Cup 2002 - BBC were in London but went out to Japan from the quarter finals, ITV were in London all the way through
Euro 2004 - BBC and ITV did the games from the grounds, but the Beeb had a Lisbon studio for highlights, while ITV were back in London
World Cup 2006 - BBC had the studio in Berlin for everything (repeating 1998) but did go to the grounds for some of the bigger games, ITV were at the grounds for the games but did the clashing matches and highlights from London, as well as the final for some reason
Euro 2008 - BBC had the studio in Vienna for everything, but the clashing matches came from London (in 2006 they did those outside the studio), ITV did everything from London
World Cup 2010 - BBC had the studio in Cape Town for everything (apart from the clashing matches which they did from a tiny, tiny studio in Johannesburg), ITV had the studio in Johannesburg for everything. Of course, as luck would have it ITV were doing the Cape Town semi live when Jim Beglin was ill and Clive Tyldsley had to do it on his own, whereas if they'd had the Johannesburg semi they could have sent a pundit over to join him.
MA
Well, no, most highlights shows these days are done on location - ITV's rugby coverage is an example - because it's presumably cheaper sending a camera or two then it would to set up the studio. I mentioned it earlier in this thread but a few months back they showed Diamond League Athletics on BBC3 where they took the international feed for the actual coverage but also had Jonathan Edwards and Colin Jackson there, and a single camera, so they could grab people for interviews and not have to fire up the studio at TVC.
In any case, surely they're not going to announce something like that if they haven't got the rights, they're not going to say otherwise. If anyone's interested, here's a list of where both chanels have presented the tournaments from in the past...
Thanks for all that Steve, all very interesting!
Wasn't it the case that ITV forgot to book studio space for the 2006 final - or was that somebody just making mischief on this forum?!
Seems a bizarre thing for the BBC to announce before they get the rights, as they are hardly endearing themselves to UEFA either, "we won't even bother to go to the matches". I know it doesn't make that much difference in the grand scheme of things and it was probably done to appease the public after the controversy of the 2010 studio cost, but a really odd time for the announcement to take place.
And what a sad end (if somewhat fitting) end to the BBC's exclusive F1 coverage - the Forum falling off air mid-interview never to return. Jake promised a specially recorded ending on the iPlayer version, but that hasn't appeared yet (and the race has been taken off iPlayer too, curiously). I really feel for Jake and the team having to big up their coverage next year and getting stick for doing it by the public, when it wasn't them who made the decisions and of course they would like to do all the races live! And those saying 'Goodbye F1' annoy me too. Either get Sky, watch round a friend's house, go to the pub, watch on European satellite or just listen on 5 live for the non-BBC races and watch the highlights a few hours later. None of the other sports have had this much moaning about going Pay (although cricket did have some very angry responses, but that was down more to the arrogance of the ECB - Giles Clarke justifying the deal by saying "well, to be honest, there will always be some people in life who can't afford some things" - and the FTA element was nowhere near as much as there is for F1).
BBC have confirmed they won't present the group stages of Euro 2012 on location. They will only go there if England or Ireland reach the later stages. Purely cost cutting, but wouldn't it be better to go there rather than present highlights of F1 races on location?
Well, no, most highlights shows these days are done on location - ITV's rugby coverage is an example - because it's presumably cheaper sending a camera or two then it would to set up the studio. I mentioned it earlier in this thread but a few months back they showed Diamond League Athletics on BBC3 where they took the international feed for the actual coverage but also had Jonathan Edwards and Colin Jackson there, and a single camera, so they could grab people for interviews and not have to fire up the studio at TVC.
In any case, surely they're not going to announce something like that if they haven't got the rights, they're not going to say otherwise. If anyone's interested, here's a list of where both chanels have presented the tournaments from in the past...
Thanks for all that Steve, all very interesting!
Wasn't it the case that ITV forgot to book studio space for the 2006 final - or was that somebody just making mischief on this forum?!
Seems a bizarre thing for the BBC to announce before they get the rights, as they are hardly endearing themselves to UEFA either, "we won't even bother to go to the matches". I know it doesn't make that much difference in the grand scheme of things and it was probably done to appease the public after the controversy of the 2010 studio cost, but a really odd time for the announcement to take place.
And what a sad end (if somewhat fitting) end to the BBC's exclusive F1 coverage - the Forum falling off air mid-interview never to return. Jake promised a specially recorded ending on the iPlayer version, but that hasn't appeared yet (and the race has been taken off iPlayer too, curiously). I really feel for Jake and the team having to big up their coverage next year and getting stick for doing it by the public, when it wasn't them who made the decisions and of course they would like to do all the races live! And those saying 'Goodbye F1' annoy me too. Either get Sky, watch round a friend's house, go to the pub, watch on European satellite or just listen on 5 live for the non-BBC races and watch the highlights a few hours later. None of the other sports have had this much moaning about going Pay (although cricket did have some very angry responses, but that was down more to the arrogance of the ECB - Giles Clarke justifying the deal by saying "well, to be honest, there will always be some people in life who can't afford some things" - and the FTA element was nowhere near as much as there is for F1).
MI
I do wonder, in a little fit of intrigue, if Sky was involved, once they'd got the rights, in getting Virgin Racing to rebrand as Marussia. For those of us with an inquiring and cynical mind, one wonders why the name change came 10 months after Marussia bought their controlling stake in the team.
Virgin logos will still be all over the car mind....
Virgin logos will still be all over the car mind....
DO
I wonder if it was actually someone at the BBC with a sense of irony rather than the published excuse of a[nother] TV compound power failure, what with the last thing broadcast of the F1 being
http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcsportbreakdown.png
"We apologise for the loss of coverage"... about time too...
And what a sad end (if somewhat fitting) end to the BBC's exclusive F1 coverage - the Forum falling off air mid-interview never to return.
I wonder if it was actually someone at the BBC with a sense of irony rather than the published excuse of a[nother] TV compound power failure, what with the last thing broadcast of the F1 being
http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcsportbreakdown.png
"We apologise for the loss of coverage"... about time too...
JO
Well it's essentially a Sports News set.
That new Salford set, looks a lot like a News set.
Well it's essentially a Sports News set.