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BBC TWO old programmes, old pres?

(October 2013)

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SD
sda|
The 7:30 edit was fine, the extended late night full version had a 'film effect' all over it. Lots of other forums mentioned last weeks episode's quality, the BBC replied to my complaint about it but it was a stock one.

9 days later

MU
mulder
I just received my stock reply. Apparently it was down to how the programme was transferred from tape.
IS
Inspector Sands
I just received my stock reply. Apparently it was down to how the programme was transferred from tape.

That sounds about right. Normally it's something to do with the fields of the picture when the video is processed (digitised or up-converted or ARCd) either the field-order is reversed or one is missed off.

There was an episode of The Two Ronnies that went out on Christmas Day many years ago where a faulty Aspect Ratio Converter on the output of the VT machine removed every other field and made it look filmic and the scrolling credits stuttery
MA
Markymark
I just received my stock reply. Apparently it was down to how the programme was transferred from tape.

That sounds about right. Normally it's something to do with the fields of the picture when the video is processed (digitised or up-converted or ARCd) either the field-order is reversed or one is missed off.

There was an episode of The Two Ronnies that went out on Christmas Day many years ago where a faulty Aspect Ratio Converter on the output of the VT machine removed every other field and made it look filmic and the scrolling credits stuttery


It was an edition of Parky I recall. As an aside, I've noticed more and more news footage ending up de-interlaced too, finger trouble, operator 'ignorance' or valid technical constraints ?
Last edited by Markymark on 20 March 2015 9:13am
DE
denton
On BBC News you can always tell when a graphic is about to appear beside a reporter... The footage suddenly changes from interlaced to progressive. Someone really needs to look at the export settings they are using.
EL
elmarko
Shouldn't any moving graphics be done in interlaced anyway?
DE
denton
Yes.

10 days later

RD
RDJ
So for some reason the Party Election Broadcasts aren't allowed to be shown on BBC Two HD. First caught this today so whether this is a new thing or not I don't know.

Therefore at 5.55pm 'This is BBC Two HD' is scheduled, with a holding caption similar to BBC One HD's caption, and with Car ident with clean audio looping for the three minutes. However unfortunately the audio doesn't match up with the action, presumably due to the editing for the ident to be looped.

This is a grab of the caption I caught from my TV taken by my phone:
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IS
Isonstine Founding member
I would imagine this is down to BBC Two HD being UK wide so party political broadcasts in Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland need to be seen by the relevant audience.
PE
peterrocket Founding member
I'm guessing that as there aren't HD equivalents in the nations, when BBC Two England / BBC TWO show one party's PEB, there will be a different one in the nations... and that brings into account the whole editorial nature of things.

You can imagine the fuss if BBC Two England were airing a Labour PEB and BBC Two Scotland were broadcasting an SNP one, but BBC TWO HD in Scotland would therefore show the Labour PEB because there is no BBC TWO Scotland HD.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Interesting... Scheduled for "BBC Two England" only. I can only put it down to the regions - BBC Two HD is nationwide, as opposed to the four region feeds.

All the nations were showing "local" Party Political Broadcasts, which I believe is not an option on BBC Two HD as there's only one nationwide feed.
MK
Mr Kite
A good argument for UK-wide PPBs, considering it's a UK-wide election and we're still one country, as unfashionable as that is to a significant minority. Of course, regional parties complicate it a bit but even so.

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