BBC News Channel General Discussion

MA

Markymark 12 July 2014 9:10am

Does the BBC on Line editor, Steve Herrmann, have an aversion to using lifts or stairs at NBH ?

From 1:45 here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b049jtmq/newswatch-11072014

Or was the interview spliced together, in other words someone else interviewed Mr H
before hand ?

PE

Pete Founding member 12 July 2014 11:58am

Markymark posted:

Or was the interview spliced together, in other words someone else interviewed Mr H
before hand ?

I'm suspecting the latter, it's slightly stilted and there are a few noddys. Presumably Samira and him weren't around the same time time so someone else did the interview and she's repeating the questions.

NS

NickyS Founding member 12 July 2014 4:56pm

Pete posted:

Markymark posted:

Or was the interview spliced together, in other words someone else interviewed Mr H
before hand ?

I'm suspecting the latter, it's slightly stilted and there are a few noddys. Presumably Samira and him weren't around the same time time so someone else did the interview and she's repeating the questions.

I would be very surprised if Samira didn't ask the questions. It might have been that A wasn't available at the time Steve was around and Samira just asked him the questions by the Newsroom camera and then they recorded the same questions in the studio? That's a guess.

MI

m_in_m 12 July 2014 8:38pm

NickyS posted:

Pete posted:

Markymark posted:

Or was the interview spliced together, in other words someone else interviewed Mr H
before hand ?

I'm suspecting the latter, it's slightly stilted and there are a few noddys. Presumably Samira and him weren't around the same time time so someone else did the interview and she's repeating the questions.

I would be very surprised if Samira didn't ask the questions. It might have been that A wasn't available at the time Steve was around and Samira just asked him the questions by the Newsroom camera and then they recorded the same questions in the studio? That's a guess.

Indeed if Samira didn't ask the questions that opens a whole can of worms about honesty. As was said it's more likely that Samira asked the questions off camera and then re-recorded those later in A. I'd rather they just recorded it elsewhere - though that would presumably require additional resources so isn't possible.

MA

Markymark 12 July 2014 10:37pm

m_in_m posted:

NickyS posted:

Pete posted:

Markymark posted:

Or was the interview spliced together, in other words someone else interviewed Mr H
before hand ?

I'm suspecting the latter, it's slightly stilted and there are a few noddys. Presumably Samira and him weren't around the same time time so someone else did the interview and she's repeating the questions.

I would be very surprised if Samira didn't ask the questions. It might have been that A wasn't available at the time Steve was around and Samira just asked him the questions by the Newsroom camera and then they recorded the same questions in the studio? That's a guess.

Indeed if Samira didn't ask the questions that opens a whole can of worms about honesty. As was said it's more likely that Samira asked the questions off camera and then re-recorded those later in A. I'd rather they just recorded it elsewhere - though that would presumably require additional resources so isn't possible.

Well, there's something very odd about it all, and this is the programme that ensures the BBC have 'transparency'

NG

noggin Founding member 12 July 2014 10:44pm

Markymark posted:

m_in_m posted:

NickyS posted:

Pete posted:

Markymark posted:

Or was the interview spliced together, in other words someone else interviewed Mr H
before hand ?

I'm suspecting the latter, it's slightly stilted and there are a few noddys. Presumably Samira and him weren't around the same time time so someone else did the interview and she's repeating the questions.

I would be very surprised if Samira didn't ask the questions. It might have been that A wasn't available at the time Steve was around and Samira just asked him the questions by the Newsroom camera and then they recorded the same questions in the studio? That's a guess.

Indeed if Samira didn't ask the questions that opens a whole can of worms about honesty. As was said it's more likely that Samira asked the questions off camera and then re-recorded those later in A. I'd rather they just recorded it elsewhere - though that would presumably require additional resources so isn't possible.

Well, there's something very odd about it all, and this is the programme that ensures the BBC have 'transparency'

If that's your position - do you dislike editing and cutaways?

Either you trust your news source or you don't. Codding an interview because it wasn't possible to record it entirely as live is always a point of discussion. I know that Newsnight, and other BBC News shows, used to use phone lines to allow the interview to take place live, with the answers and questions recorded separately and then stitched together in an edit. Is it so very different to reshoot the questions again and edit them in?

I agree that changing the questions would be completely wrong - but in location interviews that are the bread and butter of daily news, the questions and answers are routinely recorded separately (as they are often done with one camera).

I guess it's a trust thing at the end of the day.

DK

DanielK 12 July 2014 11:37pm

I had interviewed a BBC presenter a while ago as part of a school project, and our group arrived and was ready to shoot with our camera on a wide shot, but the presenter recommended filming them responding to my questions, then cut and reset and film myself asking the questions and pausing for a cut in for their responses. I just assumed it was standard practice at the Beeb?

SP

Steve in Pudsey 12 July 2014 11:40pm

Not just at the Beeb, standard practice for pre rec single camera interviews

DK

DanielK 12 July 2014 11:48pm

So am I missing something, this Newswatch situation seems to be the same, albeit that the questions record was in a different room? Doesn't mess with the integrity of the interview.

PE

Pete Founding member 13 July 2014 9:12am

No I think it all makes sense, not sure whether it was the editing that made the interview seem super stilted but it did have a very un-natural vibe about it. As you mention, re-recording the questions is standard practice but it usually seems a bit more slick.

Of course it makes more sense that Samira simply interviewed him when the studio wasn't available. I think it was she sheer oddness of the interview that threw me.

MA

Markymark 13 July 2014 9:27am

DanielK posted:

So am I missing something, this Newswatch situation seems to be the same, albeit that the questions record was in a different room? Doesn't mess with the integrity of the interview.

No, of course it doesn't, and I have absolutely no problem with the integrity of the interview (or any other), my comment 5 posts up, was partly tongue in cheek (hence the smiley), however 'down the line' style interviews when both parties are sat in the same building, is just the sort of complaint that that programme might have to address (it may well have cropped up on a past programme, I don't know, I don't regularly watch it), so to use the method on NewsWatch seems odd to me. The better technique, given the suspected constraints, was that used for the Robert Peston interview in the same programme, there it's totally clear he wasn't available for the 'as live' recording of the show.

In fact, that's what's wrong in my mind, to use the 'cutway/noddy' technique on an 'as live' studio interview.

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DT

DTV 13 July 2014 9:44am

This all seems odd given that Newswatch is pre-recorded anyway, could he just not have gone down to the Basement Studio for the interview? Studio A is free for most of the day and it wouldn't have taken much longer.

(November 2013)