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(November 2013)

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MI
m_in_m
Has Mike Bushell presented the late sports shift on the NC before?

If the BBC are trying to save money, surely sharing the weather bulletin in the 10 would make sense? Otherwise the presenter has to do a NC forecast then a BBC One forecast. If they are trying to save money, surely using the crew in the studio is a better use of resources?

I think Mike regularly presents a Thursday shift but I'm not familiar with which he does or how the shifts are split.
DF
DrewF
Studio E is having some problems at the moment - the lights have gone out, so Maxine covered a couple of links from the interview balcony and they've gone to The Film Review to cover until the program at 13:30.

EDIT: It looks like the lights went out just as Gavin was finishing a link at 13:06 - he continued reading links over an image relating to the story (presumably the one they would have used on the monitor) until Maxine took over from the balcony at 13:12.
Last edited by DrewF on 5 December 2015 1:46pm
NG
noggin Founding member
If they are trying to save money, surely using the crew in the studio is a better use of resources?


But there is no crew involved with a standalone weather forecast - it's a self-op by the weather presenter if it isn't in a normal news studio. The only person required to do a standalone forecast is the presenter - they set the lighting, camera shot, sound level, load their graphics and then do it. I think they can even record it themselves - though a media manager may also do this.
ST
Stuart
I'm quite liking the extensive use of the sidebar on the NC when reporting on the flooding stories. The use of good quality mobile phone footage sent in by viewers is a nice addition.

It doesn't use the 'screen estate' (apologies for the phrase, but I did hear it on TVF) as well as Sky News, as the BBC seem too scared of letting important text drift outside the 4:3 margin.

That said, many of the other graphics, such as weather warnings are (almost) centred in the sidebar, but then some of the information in the lower box is left-justified, which spoils the effect of using more of the screen.

Isn't it time that the BBC bit the bullet over 16:9 safe graphics?

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NE
News96
It would appear that the NC has taken a normal bulletin with Nicholas Owen in E Rather than take World News Today in the 9pm hour tonight

ETA:Scrap that it turns out it was for the severe weather story only as we are now on World News Today with Chris Rogers.
Last edited by News96 on 6 December 2015 2:18pm - 2 times in total
MI
m_in_m
Did the NC drop in at a convenient point rather than crash into World?
BR
Brekkie
Did the NC drop in at a convenient point rather than crash into World?

Looking on the iPlayer almost but not quite seemless. Nicholas Owen says "We now join our colleagues on BBC World for the rest of the days news" and we catch the last second of their report before Chris Rogers says "You're watching BBC World News Today" and moves on to the next story.
AS
Asa Admin
BBC News going all out breaking news style with the Leytonstone Station attack as the top story at 11pm after giving it the briefest of mentions at 10.30 - nothing prior to that all evening even though Sky and ITV were tweeting about it ages ago and it happened at 7pm. What's the deal with that? Is there meant to be some media blackout with these kinds of stories which they honoured, unlike the other broadcasters?
BR
Brekkie
It seems police were called at 7.06pm, culprit was arrested at 7.14pm. Were a handful of casualties but not an ongoing situation which would usually result in the continuous coverage.

Really don't think the police should be throwing the word "terrorist" out there for what is (hopefully) an isolated incident. Yes, people need to be vigilant and if the public is at risk they should be notified, but there is a danger that in the end it's the police and more crucially the media and social media reporting of such comments that can end up causing more fear amongst people than the initial incident itself.
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BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
Asa posted:
BBC News going all out breaking news style with the Leytonstone Station attack as the top story at 11pm after giving it the briefest of mentions at 10.30 - nothing prior to that all evening even though Sky and ITV were tweeting about it ages ago and it happened at 7pm. What's the deal with that? Is there meant to be some media blackout with these kinds of stories which they honoured, unlike the other broadcasters?


I know that Sky were running with the social media reports of what the man was shouting quite early, while the BBC were refusing to do so until it was confirmed by police. 5 live were spending more time on it but even then were saying something along the lines of "there are reports on other networks that we are not going to go into until they are verified", which led to the odd situation for a while of them treating a seemingly fairly routine story of a non-fatal stabbing in London as major breaking news without revealing why.

Probably sensible but it did start to seem very odd by the time it was all over all the other news outlets but not getting a mention on the news channel. What changed things was when the Met Police released a statement (I think just before 11pm) saying they were treating it as a terrorist incident.
IL
i-lied
I think the BBC prefer to try and verify parts of stories before airing them as to not disseminate potential false information. I can understand them doing this and like them for doing it as its checking sources before making it public, also it's not panicking the public unnecessarily about something until it's confirmed. Often when the breaking news sting airs, for the first reports they preface it with "unconfirmed reports via [insert news agency here] of …". I would imagine there is some sort of priority system in place too. So the tube story is very minor compared to Paris or 7/7 who will obviously need the most airtime.

Earlier in the thread, I stated a way to save money by simulcasting GMT and using the WN presenter to take viewers up to the lunchtime news but even as a step to do now, the WN presenter can take over the morning slot (with the UK team producing the 9am bulletin, with WN presenter) and is on air in studio E between 11 and 1, with an afternoon presenter starting from 1:30. This would save some money with the presenters.
DO
dosxuk
Earlier in the thread, I stated a way to save money by simulcasting GMT and using the WN presenter to take viewers up to the lunchtime news but even as a step to do now, the WN presenter can take over the morning slot (with the UK team producing the 9am bulletin, with WN presenter) and is on air in studio E between 11 and 1, with an afternoon presenter starting from 1:30. This would save some money with the presenters.


So the NC only produces it's own output between 1330-1800, 1830-2100, 2230-0000 - 8.5 hours a day? We're rapidly getting to the point of not bothering to broadcast it at all, especially once you add in other's suggestions that it should simulcast Newsnight and then handover to World, so no UK rolling news after 10pm.

On the other hand, a significant amount of UK interest news happens late-morning, early-afternoon, so I still think it's unlikely they'd consider handing that time to World.

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