MO
good find forgot about that...too bad they dumped it.
You can listen here without the voiceover.
http://www.southernmedia-nmsa.com/#3,1,831
You can listen here without the voiceover.
http://www.southernmedia-nmsa.com/#3,1,831
Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 28 August 2014 4:28pm
CH
Though to be fair, only their graphics were a downgrade. The rebrand marked a long-awaited return to real news, as opposed to the Hollywood fluff that consumed KTLA for much of the 2000s.
As for other stations with Euro-sounding themes, I think the music that KFMB, CBS channel 8 in San Diego, debuted earlier this year is quite nice. The graphics are a little all over the place, but not bad. They also updated their set a few weeks ago, which is not seen in this video.
WCCO in Minneapolis also had a nice, understated theme, even if it was production music, before they switched to the CBS look. I couldn't find a full open of it anywhere online, but here's a partial look at it that is interrupted by a CTV promo:
KTLA at its best there, and then they went downhill and back in time.
Though to be fair, only their graphics were a downgrade. The rebrand marked a long-awaited return to real news, as opposed to the Hollywood fluff that consumed KTLA for much of the 2000s.
As for other stations with Euro-sounding themes, I think the music that KFMB, CBS channel 8 in San Diego, debuted earlier this year is quite nice. The graphics are a little all over the place, but not bad. They also updated their set a few weeks ago, which is not seen in this video.
WCCO in Minneapolis also had a nice, understated theme, even if it was production music, before they switched to the CBS look. I couldn't find a full open of it anywhere online, but here's a partial look at it that is interrupted by a CTV promo:
CH
Whoever recorded that is in Manitoba, where CBS is available through WCCO. From what I understand, the CRTC (Canada's FCC or Ofcom) requires duplicate programming and foreign commercials to be substituted with local/Canadian content. So either the program before WCCO's 10pm news on CBS was either carried by a Canadian network and had to be blocked out, or perhaps only WCCO/CBS' commercials were preempted. I'm not entirely sure on the specifics of how and when this works, but that is the gist of what I understand about simultaneous substitution.
Wait what? Why is there a CTV promo on there? I'm confused.
Whoever recorded that is in Manitoba, where CBS is available through WCCO. From what I understand, the CRTC (Canada's FCC or Ofcom) requires duplicate programming and foreign commercials to be substituted with local/Canadian content. So either the program before WCCO's 10pm news on CBS was either carried by a Canadian network and had to be blocked out, or perhaps only WCCO/CBS' commercials were preempted. I'm not entirely sure on the specifics of how and when this works, but that is the gist of what I understand about simultaneous substitution.
MO
Wikipedia has a good explanation of SubSim rules
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_substitution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_substitution
NY
Whoever recorded that is in Manitoba, where CBS is available through WCCO. From what I understand, the CRTC (Canada's FCC or Ofcom) requires duplicate programming and foreign commercials to be substituted with local/Canadian content. So either the program before WCCO's 10pm news on CBS was either carried by a Canadian network and had to be blocked out, or perhaps only WCCO/CBS' commercials were preempted. I'm not entirely sure on the specifics of how and when this works, but that is the gist of what I understand about simultaneous substitution.
Plus a lot of Canadian cities along the US/Canada border can get the Detroit, Buffalo, NYC, Chicago and the Seattle stations as well as the Minnesota- St-Paul / Twin Cities Market. The same can be said for some US cities as well
Wait what? Why is there a CTV promo on there? I'm confused.
Whoever recorded that is in Manitoba, where CBS is available through WCCO. From what I understand, the CRTC (Canada's FCC or Ofcom) requires duplicate programming and foreign commercials to be substituted with local/Canadian content. So either the program before WCCO's 10pm news on CBS was either carried by a Canadian network and had to be blocked out, or perhaps only WCCO/CBS' commercials were preempted. I'm not entirely sure on the specifics of how and when this works, but that is the gist of what I understand about simultaneous substitution.
Plus a lot of Canadian cities along the US/Canada border can get the Detroit, Buffalo, NYC, Chicago and the Seattle stations as well as the Minnesota- St-Paul / Twin Cities Market. The same can be said for some US cities as well
Last edited by NYTV on 29 August 2014 6:08pm
RD
rdd
Founding member
Rather perverse if, as according to that Wikipedia article simsubbing has led to CFL being relegated to cable on TSN while the NFL gets a terrestrial outlet on CTV (so it can be simsubbed) I'm sure the CRTC didn't intend for that to happen! It's an odd practice and one I'm glad doesn't hit us on this part of the globe - though I can understand the Canadian broadcasters liking for it from a viewer point of view I'd hate for the choice to be taken away.
BA
What makes you think this isn't the case for UK theme tunes? It might be done the other way round (graphics made to the theme tune), but it's certainly done in many cases.
Also, many of theirs are created with graphics in mind, so a cymbal crash might be with a whoosh is on screen etc.
What makes you think this isn't the case for UK theme tunes? It might be done the other way round (graphics made to the theme tune), but it's certainly done in many cases.
DK
Nearly all American news opens that I have seen have graphics times to music (or music timed to graphics), here in the UK there are very few. BBC News cuts with the music, but it is a continued beat rather than something punctual. Breakfast has the pulse of light with the start of the titles, and then the crash with the next flash. ITV have the fade in of the titles matched to the music, and the movement of each 'slide' of squares matches the music. Good Morning Britain have the pulsating rings with the drum rolls. Channel 4 News' titles sort of 'moves' with the theme, there isn't really any clear way to explain that one. Sky News has a change of angle with every build of the music.
In my head I made sense, it probably doesn't make much sense written down...
In my head I made sense, it probably doesn't make much sense written down...

