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(January 2006)

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RO
Ronant
Some pictures of the new BBC Sport football studio in Salford... http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150258318200982.359779.8585725981#!/media/set/?set=a.10150258318200982.359779.8585725981&closeTheater=1

Football Focus will be there in August, Match of the Day however not until the end of 2011.
MI
Michael
OK good point. But we were in a time when all sports had individual colour schemes.


Yes, absolutely, but for all other golf, there was a black, rather than silver bar coupled with the teal.

http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/section-images/bbc-golf-graphics-2010/TVNR-2010-08-18-20h31m11s212.jpg

Methinks its some sort of rights issue vis a vis the R&A, in the same way the Masters graphics have to be green:

http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/section-images/bbc-golf-graphics-2010/0416_163253_CH000.jpg
BR
Brekkie
Do viewers around the world get the BBC graphics for The Open (and going back a couple of weeks, Wimbledon), or do they have their own versions on the international feed?
JO
Jon

Football Focus will be there in August, Match of the Day however not until the end of 2011.

Why I wonder?

The only thing I can think of is perhaps with Linker working for Al Jazeera perhaps they can't get a studio up north till later in the year. It seems a bit odd and I would think it must be to do with the talent, unless they want to use Football Focus as a bit of a test?

Do viewers around the world get the BBC graphics for The Open (and going back a couple of weeks, Wimbledon), or do they have their own versions on the international feed?

I think international viewers for Wimbledon (except NBC who produced their own IIRC) get a clean feed of the graphics without the BBC Sport logo, one assumes this is the same for The Open.
GE
thegeek Founding member
I think international viewers for Wimbledon (except NBC who produced their own IIRC) get a clean feed of the graphics without the BBC Sport logo, one assumes this is the same for The Open.
Yup, the World Feed tends to be the host broadcaster graphics, minus their logo.

If there's another broadcaster on site, then they'll most likely get a data feed into their own graphics kit to create the same graphics in their own house style.
ST
Ste Founding member
Watching on the Spanish channel Canal+ Golf the BBC graphics are used but without the BBC logo, things like the "facts" sometimes provided on the screen (e.g. Only two golfers have won a major after winning a tournament the week before) are also still shown.

The video in http://espn.go.com/golf/blog/_/name/golf/id/6772473/ace-keeps-tom-watson-weekend shows that ESPN has different commentary and graphics.
RD
rdd Founding member
Do viewers around the world get the BBC graphics for The Open (and going back a couple of weeks, Wimbledon), or do they have their own versions on the international feed?


Setanta does for the Open - minus the BBC Sport logo. It is also taking a commentary feed that includes the BBC shot-by-shot commentary, but appears to have other commentators (not Setanta personnel) voicing the leaderboard and other segments. It doesn't have the BBC studio segments (in fact it has no studio segments at all). I presume the audio feed is being provided by the BBC though?

As for Wimbledon - on TG4 it was the BBC Sport graphics minus the actual BBC Sport logo. TG4 did their own commentary (in Irish) though. There was what appeared to be a syndicated highlights programme on at night which was in English. TG4 didn't produce this, I don't know who did.
BR
Brekkie
It is the tennis which prompted the question after stumbling on some graphics for the Australian Open, where Seven use a different package to what we see.

This is going back 15 years now but I recall in Atlanta 1996 NBC using their own graphics rather than the international package for their coverage of the games - has that practice continued? And getting more up to date but I believe the Premier League have their own graphics on international feeds too.
RD
rdd Founding member
And getting more up to date but I believe the Premier League have their own graphics on international feeds too.


Yes, I think it's the same as the graphics used for "Premier League Productions" on Sky Sports, I forget what the actual name of the programme is, "Barclays Premier League World" or Weekly something.

We get a glimpse of them on Setanta when they go round the grounds at half time, though Setanta use their own graphics for the game they are actually covering. (I've usually flicked over to Soccer Saturday at half time though).

Its getting more and more common for sporting organisations to insist on broadcasters using a common presentation package. UEFA pioneered it with the Champions League which has used its own package since the early days, they have one for the Europa League now too, ERC have one for the Heineken Cup, and FIFA and UEFA are now using them for international competitions. I recall the BBC refused to use the official graphics and titles for both Euro 2008 and the 2010 World Cup.
HA
harshy Founding member
Yeah there are specialist providers, its usually the same ones IMG Sports Media are involved with Premier League, IPL, cricket from the West Indies and various other events, and there's others too, Todays golf was done by IMG Sports Media it was virtually the same it had the same commentators (usually its different), but the graphics didn't have bbcsport on the bottom and the url was opengolf.com. Wimbledon was also done by IMG Sports Media but I've never seen the world feed for that event.

The Premier League feed usually has all the match feeds (on a muxx encrypted at 10e) and a world feed at 7e usually has the match, some strange blast from the past feature, some stats from the live game, second half, more of the same at the end, followe by endboard.

Thing is in the UK we will probably never see these feeds instead we see the unilaterals.
HA
harshy Founding member
rdd posted:
And getting more up to date but I believe the Premier League have their own graphics on international feeds too.


Yes, I think it's the same as the graphics used for "Premier League Productions" on Sky Sports, I forget what the actual name of the programme is, "Barclays Premier League World" or Weekly something.

We get a glimpse of them on Setanta when they go round the grounds at half time, though Setanta use their own graphics for the game they are actually covering. (I've usually flicked over to Soccer Saturday at half time though).

Its getting more and more common for sporting organisations to insist on broadcasters using a common presentation package. UEFA pioneered it with the Champions League which has used its own package since the early days, they have one for the Europa League now too, ERC have one for the Heineken Cup, and FIFA and UEFA are now using them for international competitions. I recall the BBC refused to use the official graphics and titles for both Euro 2008 and the 2010 World Cup.


Yes I forgot the broadcasters name but you will have noticed from the FIFA graphics, is the same company, they usually produce a multilateral and a presented feed I can't imagine who would take the latter.

Seeing these world feeds are almost impossible even with specialist equipment as they are all either 4:2:2 or encrypted.
MI
Michael
rdd posted:
And getting more up to date but I believe the Premier League have their own graphics on international feeds too.


Yes, I think it's the same as the graphics used for "Premier League Productions" on Sky Sports, I forget what the actual name of the programme is, "Barclays Premier League World" or Weekly something.

We get a glimpse of them on Setanta when they go round the grounds at half time, though Setanta use their own graphics for the game they are actually covering. (I've usually flicked over to Soccer Saturday at half time though).

Its getting more and more common for sporting organisations to insist on broadcasters using a common presentation package. UEFA pioneered it with the Champions League which has used its own package since the early days, they have one for the Europa League now too, ERC have one for the Heineken Cup, and FIFA and UEFA are now using them for international competitions. I recall the BBC refused to use the official graphics and titles for both Euro 2008 and the 2010 World Cup.


Yes I forgot the broadcasters name but you will have noticed from the FIFA graphics, is the same company, they usually produce a multilateral and a presented feed I can't imagine who would take the latter.

Seeing these world feeds are almost impossible even with specialist equipment as they are all either 4:2:2 or encrypted.


Unless you've watched a P2P TV service - most of the Asian ESPN/Star Sports channels, plus Fox Soccer in USA, use those graphics.

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