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Universal_r
Brekkie posted:
Markymark posted:
Brekkie posted:
They could in theory have the briefing on BBC1 and US Election coverage on BBC News/World.


They could, but I suspect the BBC would never consider having the signing on BBC 1 too, so BoJo would need to remain on the NC, and therefore BBC 1 as well <facepalm>

Shouldn't be the BBC's job to offer the signing, but could still be available on the red button and online. Do they even point BBC1 viewers to the news channel for the signed version? I wasn't aware of it till the recent meme.

It’s sometimes in the flipper on the “breaking” strap but not always, I can’t recall anytime it’s been mentioned on air.
IS
Inspector Sands
mark posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
Nevada are doing an update on their count at 1700 GMT.

If that means that NV (with 6 EC votes) is announcing that it's gone for Biden then the news outlets who currently have the count as 264 for Biden will have a winner.

If this happens then it could get a bit complicated, as the places that called Arizona did so before it emerged there were more uncounted votes than previously thought, so it's still in play for Trump. Therefore we could have a situation where, as you say, Biden appears to have more than 270, but only because of a premature call in Arizona that no-one will want to hang their hat on. This is a good summary...

The Arizona call and figure of 264 seems to have originated at AP, so any outlets that are using them have the same result. I notice Al Jazeera's interactive results page is one of those
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Meridian AM
BBC News channel showing BBC One at 4.30!!
Unbelievable.
It's a crucial time and the news channel should be in rolling news mode with election coverage, even if they have to join BBC1 at 5pm for the signing of the PM speech.
Absolutely no need to simulcast BBC1 on the news channel at 4.30, especially as everyone receives both channels anyway.
They should have stayed with World right now, especially with Trump's people due to speak at any moment.
They must have lost a lot of people who are interested in the big election to Sky and CNN, etc.
No election coverage on the BBC "News" channel between 4.30 and 6pm. Useless!
Last edited by Meridian AM on 5 November 2020 4:51pm
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scottishtv Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
The Arizona call and figure of 264 seems to have originated at AP, so any outlets that are using them have the same result. I notice Al Jazeera's interactive results page is one of those

Just as an aside, Fox News was one of the first to call Arizona for Biden (very early) which caused yet another pantomime moment of the anchors getting someone from their 'Decision Desk' on air to explain themselves. Apparently the Trump campaign told Fox to switch it back to too early to call.
UN
Universal_r
Meridian AM posted:
BBC News channel showing BBC One at 4.30!!
Unbelievable.
It's a crucial time and the news channel should be in rolling news mode with election coverage, even if they have to join BBC1 at 5pm for the signing of the PM speech.
Absolutely no need to simulcast BBC1 on the news channel at 4.30, especially as everyone receives both channels anyway.
They should have stayed with World right now, especially with Trump's people due to speak at any moment.
They must have lost a lot of people who are interested in the big election to Sky and CNN, etc.

It’s terrible but sadly expected of the bbc now. Trumps team giving a pretty important conference right now and no coverage of it on the news channel at all.
I wonder if there is any major developments during the PM’s press conference that the news channel will drop the 6 and cover them.
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JKDerry
I have stuck with CNN for all of the US election coverage and I have really enjoyed their work and team. Jake Tapper, Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, my own namesake John King at his video wall were great, the perfect team to wade through the mess of the election results.
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Michael
JKDerry posted:
I have stuck with CNN for all of the US election coverage and I have really enjoyed their work and team. Jake Tapper, Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, my own namesake John King at his video wall were great, the perfect team to wade through the mess of the election results.


Same. CNN has just been data, data data, with little fluff. John King is amazing.
IS
Inspector Sands
scottishtv posted:

Just as an aside, Fox News was one of the first to call Arizona for Biden (very early) which caused yet another pantomime moment of the anchors getting someone from their 'Decision Desk' on air to explain themselves. Apparently the Trump campaign told Fox to switch it back to too early to call.

They didn't phone Fox, they went straight to Rupe... who refused
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-call-murdoch-kushner-fox-news-arizona-biden-b1615493.html

It is curious that Fox News is one of the outlets that's ahead in calling it for Biden:


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Rkolsen
mark posted:
I didn't see everyone's coverage last night, but here's how I'd rate the networks I watched:


3) NBC
Looked great but had quite a dry and serious feel to it. Didn't do any Rockefeller Plaza-based AR like MSNBC did, and like they've done in the past.



There were a few bits of Rockefeller Center most seemed to air at the same time as MSNBC. I was disappointed there was no map on the rink (unless it wasn’t put up due to covid). In 2016 they had two jibs running outside the rink and a locked off camera above for AR across all the networks.
trance posted:
bilky asko posted:
JasonB posted:
Asking as a neutral: Why are Sky and BBC News showing two different results for Biden at the moment?


Because Sky and the BBC (or whoever is supplying the relevant information) have made differing decisions on which states to call.


BBC says its calls are from "NEP/Edison via Reuters". Sky doesn't say, but the numbers are the same for Sky and NBC right now.


NEP is the National Election Pool, it provides exit polling data for ABC, CBS, CNN and NBC (as of 2017). And it is performed by Edison Research. So the calls and exit polls are the same. As for total votes for Reuters I don’t know how their gathering it but the AP has 4,000 reporters (assume a lot of journalism students) at county election HQ.
RR
RR
It is also virtually every newspaper on 264 at the moment - e.g. the FT and The Guardian. They take their call from AP, as does PBS and virtually all newspapers in the US.
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Inspector Sands
RR posted:
It is also virtually every newspaper on 264 at the moment - e.g. the FT and The Guardian. They take their call from AP, as does PBS and virtually all newspapers in the US.

And as I say it will be interesting if Nevada has a result because they can't call it without wither declaring Biden the winner, or retracting Arizona

Reminiscent of 2000 when Fox called Florida early and that was used by Bush's team to persuade the public and courts that they'd win the election
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BBI45
Given the discussion about how states are called, I thought it'd be good to share this video from Wendover Productions, which summarises how the results are reported:

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