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ITV abandons the South Bank

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noggin Founding member
Markymark posted:
bluecortina posted:
Markymark posted:

What would the hand held camera have been back then, Marconi or IVC possibly ? It looks pretty ropey
in the video. The main studio cameras were EMI 2001s I think ?


I will try and find out some more for you. Given the single was released in 1976 I think we can safely assume the studio cameras were the EMI 2001's. OB's did have IVC 7000 portable and studio cameras. i think those concerned at the time would be disappointed that you refer to it as 'pretty ropey', despite it's somewhat adhoc appearance it would have been staged professionally.

Edited to add, my source does not have any more information I'm afraid although I believe it was directed by Mike Mansfield in one take.


Oh, I'm sure everything was set up properly and professionally. Take a look at 1:27, the registration seems to be noticeably out bottom right of the picture (though as Noggin says the blooming and flaring doesn't 'help')

https://youtu.be/z0qW9P-uYfM?list=RDz0qW9P-uYfM&t=78


Well at 1'27" the whole bottom right of the picture is covered in lens flare so all bets are off Smile The much thicker green edge around Elton's white shirt collar is what made me think that might not be a 2001, but with that amount of light to cope with - who knows?! The more I look at it the more I think that might not be a 2001 though...

The two eye level cameras don't quite match - for my money the camera-left camera is making the nicest pictures.
NT
Night Thoughts
Here’s a 70s photo of Upper Ground, showing how the area has changed. Spot the tower...



Spencer and Markymark gave kudos
MA
Markymark
Night Thoughts posted:
Here’s a 70s photo of Upper Ground, showing how the area has changed. Spot the tower...


And lack of The Mulberry Bush !
WH
Whataday Founding member
No doubt The Mulberry Bush isn't there but I don't think you'd quite be able to see it from that viewpoint anyway.
AN
Andrew Founding member
I can see now why property prices might have risen a tad since LWT bought the plot of land
GE
thegeek Founding member
Andrew posted:
I can see now why property prices might have risen a tad since LWT bought the plot of land

Of course, LWT didn't own the land - ITV only bought the plot (from the Coal Board pension trustees) in 2013.
GE
thegeek Founding member
Whataday posted:
No doubt The Mulberry Bush isn't there but I don't think you'd quite be able to see it from that viewpoint anyway.

The current Mulberry Bush is a new building on more or less the site of the old one - but I think you're right that you wouldn't have seen it from that corner. It's the 'PH' on this 1952 map: https://maps.nls.uk/view/103030521
MA
Markymark
Whataday posted:
No doubt The Mulberry Bush isn't there but I don't think you'd quite be able to see it from that viewpoint anyway.


The front of it sicks out into the pavement, ( as I discovered looking at the view from the same position on Google Streetview)

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5073849,-0.1099569,3a,82.7y,232.79h,89.98t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sFWvWMIcGErbdraSQk4bFAw!2e0!5s20180201T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Last edited by Markymark on 4 January 2019 9:13am
MA
Markymark
thegeek posted:
Whataday posted:
No doubt The Mulberry Bush isn't there but I don't think you'd quite be able to see it from that viewpoint anyway.

The current Mulberry Bush is a new building on more or less the site of the old one - but I think you're right that you wouldn't have seen it from that corner. It's the 'PH' on this 1952 map: https://maps.nls.uk/view/103030521


Ah, interesting was the original pub have the same name
BL
bluecortina
Markymark posted:
thegeek posted:
Whataday posted:
No doubt The Mulberry Bush isn't there but I don't think you'd quite be able to see it from that viewpoint anyway.

The current Mulberry Bush is a new building on more or less the site of the old one - but I think you're right that you wouldn't have seen it from that corner. It's the 'PH' on this 1952 map: https://maps.nls.uk/view/103030521


Ah, interesting was the original pub have the same name



The original pub very much existed at the time the photo linked to above was taken. It fronted Upper Ground and was surrounded by the bomb site that was the local public car park (known locally as the 'Coin Street' car park). 'Rose and Crown' was the name of the original pub if I remember correctly. There is a other Rose and Crown by Columbo Street slightly further south of SE1.
GE
thegeek Founding member
bluecortina posted:
Markymark posted:
thegeek posted:
The current Mulberry Bush is a new building on more or less the site of the old one - but I think you're right that you wouldn't have seen it from that corner. It's the 'PH' on this 1952 map: https://maps.nls.uk/view/103030521


Ah, interesting was the original pub have the same name



The original pub very much existed at the time the photo linked to above was taken. It fronted Upper Ground and was surrounded by the bomb site that was the local public car park (known locally as the 'Coin Street' car park). 'Rose and Crown' was the name of the original pub if I remember correctly. There is a other Rose and Crown by Columbo Street slightly further south of SE1.

TV Studio History has a brief mention of the pub - while it was being rebuilt, it moved to temporary premises in Gabriel's Wharf, called Studio 6 - which still remain today.

The other Rose & Crown is a nice wee pub too. It's quite near TalkSPORT, if you want a broadcasting link...
MA
Markymark
thegeek posted:


The other Rose & Crown is a nice wee pub too. It's quite near TalkSPORT, if you want a broadcasting link...


Oh yes, I remember the Rose and Crown from my time working at ‘Kent House etc’. Better range of beer than The Mulberry. Better stop this off topic stuff now, or one of the Headmasters will tell us off........

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