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(August 2004)

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ST
South Today
AxG posted:
How long have Leeds and Hull been doing a joint Breakfast bulletin?


It must be a least a year now. It was meant to be for a ''trial period''. There are odd occasions when they haven't been pan regional ie. bad weather situations where it is important to provide the latest travel updates.

Clare Frisby moved to lunchtime and also produces the bulletin too.
LS
Lou Scannon
AxG posted:
How long have Leeds and Hull been doing a joint Breakfast bulletin?


It must be a least a year now. It was meant to be for a ''trial period''.


The purpose of the "trial" being what, I wonder?

Testing the water for scaling back the Hull version to a partial sub-opt of Leeds (à la Cambridge/Oxford/St Helier) maybe?

For all regular non-news programmes (e.g. Inside Out, Sunday Politics), the original Yorks & Lincs pan-region has always remained. It was literally just Look North that was split from the early-mid 2000s.

Has there ever been any occasional ad-hoc regional opt-out programmes (i.e. "A Question of Sport" replacements!) that were either Emley-only or Belmont-only?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
There have been Emley only ad-hoc opts, not sure about Belmont only
SP
Spencer
It’s a shame for the Breakfast bulletins that Look North can’t just do the same as Calendar (and other ITV split regions) do with one opt pre-recorded.

I presume it’s still frowned upon at the BBC to record the news, which is a shame, as doing this would allow a more relevant service for both sub-opts.
WL
W1LL
AxG posted:
How long have Leeds and Hull been doing a joint Breakfast bulletin?


It must be a least a year now. It was meant to be for a ''trial period''.


The purpose of the "trial" being what, I wonder?

Testing the water for scaling back the Hull version to a partial sub-opt of Leeds (à la Cambridge/Oxford/St Helier) maybe?

For all regular non-news programmes (e.g. Inside Out, Sunday Politics), the original Yorks & Lincs pan-region has always remained. It was literally just Look North that was split from the early-mid 2000s.


Wouldn't be surprised if they do this when Peter retires. Then again, broadcast TV will probably be a thing of the past once he decides to leave. Laughing
AN
Andrew Founding member
AxG posted:
How long have Leeds and Hull been doing a joint Breakfast bulletin?


It must be a least a year now. It was meant to be for a ''trial period''. There are odd occasions when they haven't been pan regional ie. bad weather situations where it is important to provide the latest travel updates.

Clare Frisby moved to lunchtime and also produces the bulletin too.


Scrolling back in this thread, June 2016 it started.

I'm not sure what trial would be judged on as it was obvious the ratings wouldn't be effected, they could have a presenter read from paper in front of a beige wall for 4 mins and people would hardly switch off in disgust. Presumably they asked a focus group leading questions to declare it a success.

The Lincolnshire stories that obviously disappear across the rest of the day's output is the main issue. The succession of about 5 different presenters that only appear at that time of day is another.

On any given day it can either be Victoria Holland, Gemma Dawson or Sarah Walton with Jo Makel on a Friday and Shirley Henry or Crispin Rolfe also appearing regularly.
TR
TROGGLES

It must be a least a year now. It was meant to be for a ''trial period''.


The purpose of the "trial" being what, I wonder?

Testing the water for scaling back the Hull version to a partial sub-opt of Leeds (à la Cambridge/Oxford/St Helier) maybe?

For all regular non-news programmes (e.g. Inside Out, Sunday Politics), the original Yorks & Lincs pan-region has always remained. It was literally just Look North that was split from the early-mid 2000s.


Wouldn't be surprised if they do this when Peter retires. Then again, broadcast TV will probably be a thing of the past once he decides to leave. Laughing

Harry Gration is due to retire first.

Queens gardens got a reprieve when Hull became city of culture. I expect from mid 2018 it may be a different story.
Closing Hull's programme and doing a smoke and mirrors from Leeds could be got away with if Levy was hosting.
Hull & Leeds share the same HLRP who has worked well with James Harding, but that particular safeguard has now gone. Closing Hull's pointless expensive building would be popular with the accountants, they are still about £35 million short of savings target. The BBC does not need to occupy three floors of prime retail space in a city centre when there are cheaper alternatives.
NG
noggin Founding member
The BBC does not need to occupy three floors of prime retail space in a city centre when there are cheaper alternatives.


The legacy of the 'city centre' relocation strategy that moved Pebble Mill to The Mailbox... Cambridge was one of the only relocations that made sense IMHO.
IS
Inspector Sands
Wasn't the Hull thing all to do with some sort of connected TV/Internet service based around Hulls unique telecommunications setup?

I seem to remember it was going to be a model that would hopefully be rolled out across the country, but for various reasons didn't
TR
TROGGLES
Wasn't the Hull thing all to do with some sort of connected TV/Internet service based around Hulls unique telecommunications setup?

I seem to remember it was going to be a model that would hopefully be rolled out across the country, but for various reasons didn't

Yes £35 million spent on the whole project which was an abject failure. It never worked properly and the place was full of useless kit for ages. There was supposed to be some sort of local news aspect (as opposed to regional) with a service for East Yorkshire separate from the one from Hull. The best they managed was Levy perched on a desk in the office reading copy from Radio Hummerside[sic]

They needed a new building quickly so they hastily signed up to Queens Court before it was finished and converted the retail space into a TV & Radio studios. It was a totally unsuitable building which is why the TV studio is a funny sort of triangle shape.
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Earlie37
Part of the failed project can still be found online... http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber/bbci_hull/project_hull/

And there's even a TV Forum thread about it... https://www.tvforum.co.uk/tvhome/kingston-interactive-television-kit-41724/ Very Happy
Last edited by Earlie37 on 26 October 2017 11:29pm
AN
Andrew Founding member
They won't get rid of Hull due to the fact that there is only one studio in Leeds, no room to expand and prerecording news isn't the done thing on the BBC

They also wouldn't return to a pan regional service as there is no way they would except ITV offering a more localised service than they do.

I assume the Internet cafe or whatever isn't open anymore?

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