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The 'Victoria Derbyshire' Programme

Victoria Derbyshire's new daytime show... (January 2015)

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Worzel
The VD programme still really doesn't have an identity, too newsy for BBC Two, yet not newsy enough for the News Channel.

This Morning may be gutter tabloid television, yet it has a focus on being a mid-morning lifestyle daytime show with an element of topical discussion. VD is restrained by the commitments to the News Channel service licence and doesn't serve either audience.


Which is interesting, because Sky News used to hit the mark quite well with Afternoon Live with Kay Burley.

The VD show is clearly inspired by (what was) Afternoon Live in terms of its unconventional news presentation style and human interest stories, but the way the more serious and Breaking News elements fit in seem a bit detached, whereas AL used to handle them well.

Any programme needs time to bed in and i'm surprised they haven't made any real tweaks yet since the programme is kind of past its early-launch phase.
Last edited by Worzel on 28 July 2016 8:49pm - 2 times in total
LL
London Lite Founding member
Joanna presented the whole of this week, so the other two stand-ins must be doing at least one day each next week.
SW
Steve Williams
It's the same issue that was quite rightly levelled at her Five Live programme. It was unrelenting with negative stories.


The VD programme still really doesn't have an identity, too newsy for BBC Two, yet not newsy enough for the News Channel.


The VD show is clearly inspired by (what was) Afternoon Live in terms of its unconventional news presentation style and human interest stories, but the way the more serious and Breaking News elements fit in seem a bit detached, whereas AL used to handle them well.


Well, fair enough, it's perfectly fine to take issue with the merits of the programme and its production, but personal criticism of its presenter is surely a step too far. Saying "she has no sense of humour" is a horrible thing to say. We don't know her as a person. You can say "on the programme I think she can appear a bit humourless", which can be a valid criticism, but surely not that? I find it totally unpleasant.

Similarly to say she was "AWOL" is casting doubts on her professionalism, and maybe even libellous. When and for how long Derbyshire works is between herself, her agent and her employer, and it's nobody else's bloody business. I wouldn't like anybody taking issue with my employment record apart from my employers. Seems to be breaking forum rules as well.

Yes, criticise the programme as much as you like - but why does it always have to be so personal? It's got her name in the title but she is not responsible for 100% of its content. Is the show any different when she's not doing it?
Last edited by Steve Williams on 29 July 2016 3:57pm - 2 times in total
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radiolistener
Of course we are saying "she doesn't have a sense of humour" because that is what is being portrayed on television. If she has had an excellent sense of humour, let her portray it in the show . The fact that she seems to wallow on the depressing stories fairly constantly (on both radio and TV) seems to suggest that is where she wants to be. Let's have light and shade.
WO
Worzel
It's the same issue that was quite rightly levelled at her Five Live programme. It was unrelenting with negative stories.


The VD programme still really doesn't have an identity, too newsy for BBC Two, yet not newsy enough for the News Channel.


The VD show is clearly inspired by (what was) Afternoon Live in terms of its unconventional news presentation style and human interest stories, but the way the more serious and Breaking News elements fit in seem a bit detached, whereas AL used to handle them well.


Well, fair enough, it's perfectly fine to take issue with the merits of the programme and its production, but personal criticism of its presenter is surely a step too far. Saying "she has no sense of humour" is a horrible thing to say. We don't know her as a person. You can say "on the programme I think she can appear a bit humourless", which can be a valid criticism, but surely not that? I find it totally unpleasant.

Similarly to say she was "AWOL" is casting doubts on her professionalism, and maybe even libellous. When and for how long Derbyshire works is between herself, her agent and her employer, and it's nobody else's bloody business. I wouldn't like anybody taking issue with my employment record apart from my employers. Seems to be breaking forum rules as well.

Yes, criticise the programme as much as you like - but why does it always have to be so personal? It's got her name in the title but she is not responsible for 100% of its content. Is the show any different when she's not doing it?


Since you've quoted me, care to point out where in my post I have criticised Victoria Derbyshire's personal presentation style? The answer is I haven't. I didn't comment on Victoria's personal presentation style, which in fact I quite like. I commented on the general presentation of the Breaking News elements and the fact the show seems inspired by Sky News' Afternoon Live.
Last edited by Worzel on 29 July 2016 9:41pm - 2 times in total
VM
VMPhil
Can't we all just get along and agree on the one unshakeable truth, that this logo is one of the worst things ever made for a TV programme

http://images.radiotimes.com/namedimage/26_04_2016.jpg?quality=85&mode=crop&width=580&height=327&404=tv&url=/remote/static.radiotimes.com.edgesuite.net/pa/48/57/webANXvictoriaderbyshire2.jpg

It looks like someone's left a technicolour coffee stain on the 'V'
LL
London Lite Founding member
It's the same issue that was quite rightly levelled at her Five Live programme. It was unrelenting with negative stories.


The VD programme still really doesn't have an identity, too newsy for BBC Two, yet not newsy enough for the News Channel.


The VD show is clearly inspired by (what was) Afternoon Live in terms of its unconventional news presentation style and human interest stories, but the way the more serious and Breaking News elements fit in seem a bit detached, whereas AL used to handle them well.


Well, fair enough, it's perfectly fine to take issue with the merits of the programme and its production, but personal criticism of its presenter is surely a step too far. Saying "she has no sense of humour" is a horrible thing to say. We don't know her as a person. You can say "on the programme I think she can appear a bit humourless", which can be a valid criticism, but surely not that? I find it totally unpleasant.

Similarly to say she was "AWOL" is casting doubts on her professionalism, and maybe even libellous. When and for how long Derbyshire works is between herself, her agent and her employer, and it's nobody else's bloody business. I wouldn't like anybody taking issue with my employment record apart from my employers. Seems to be breaking forum rules as well.

Yes, criticise the programme as much as you like - but why does it always have to be so personal? It's got her name in the title but she is not responsible for 100% of its content. Is the show any different when she's not doing it?


Since you've quoted me, care to point out where in my post I have criticised Victoria Derbyshire's personal presentation style? The answer is I haven't. I didn't comment on Victoria's personal presentation style, which in fact I quite like. I commented on the general presentation of the Breaking News elements and the fact the show seems inspired by Sky News' Afternoon Live.


I believe Steve used our quotes as they're based on tv presentation, rather than personal comments about Ms Derbyshire.
BA
bazinga
Seriously, no one, apart from a few weirdos on here care that there is someone else presenting a self titled show. I'm sure the viewers don't take notice of how many times victoria has had off ( and who is presenting the show) err, maybe they might notice the difference between Victoria and norman smith.
In all seriousness though, I think the show has grown well. And does offer something a little different, the human Interest stores alongside harder news, is something they are doing well, and possibly attracting viewers who would not normally watch rolling news. Also, from a pres point of view, it's refreshing to see how versatile the set is for all the shows, much better than TC7's barco walls.
PI
picard
Can't we all just get along and agree on the one unshakeable truth, that this logo is one of the worst things ever made for a TV programme

http://images.radiotimes.com/namedimage/26_04_2016.jpg?quality=85&mode=crop&width=580&height=327&404=tv&url=/remote/static.radiotimes.com.edgesuite.net/pa/48/57/webANXvictoriaderbyshire2.jpg

It looks like someone's left a technicolour coffee stain on the 'V'


I wonder how much it cost, my local authroity have just spend 15k removing a full stop from their logo.

VD has been ill, so it's understandable she has had time off.
IS
Inspector Sands

VD has been ill, so it's understandable she has had time off.

I do wish people would stop using VD as an abbreviation. Just sounds wrong

Quote:

I wonder how much it cost, my local authroity have just spend 15k removing a full stop from their logo.

Probably the work of an in house graphic designer so very little


Off topic but if your local authority spent that much changing it's logo, most of that cost would be amending physical signs rather than design cost
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 30 July 2016 7:47am
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RK
Rkolsen
Can't we all just get along and agree on the one unshakeable truth, that this logo is one of the worst things ever made for a TV programme

It looks like someone's left a technicolour coffee stain on the 'V'


For some reason the "coffee stain" reminds me of the Jane Seymour touts her Open Heart collection of jewelry on TV here in the US. It's probably because their both open ended. She shows how the simple brush stroke that happened by accident and now she's selling jewelry in chain stores across America.

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SW
Steve Williams
Since you've quoted me, care to point out where in my post I have criticised Victoria Derbyshire's personal presentation style? The answer is I haven't. I didn't comment on Victoria's personal presentation style, which in fact I quite like. I commented on the general presentation of the Breaking News elements and the fact the show seems inspired by Sky News' Afternoon Live.


I wasn't suggesting you were criticising her personally. I was saying that these posts seemed perfectly acceptable because they were about the programme itself - in contrast to the personal stuff. Apologies if it looked like I was taking issue with that particular post.

I believe Steve used our quotes as they're based on tv presentation, rather than personal comments about Ms Derbyshire.


Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to do.

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