Looking forward to seeing how these new shows work, but I'm a little surprised. BBC News 24, as was, got rid of most of their non-rolling news programming around 2000 (e.g. Zero 30, which became Liquid News), with Click Online seemingly the sole survivor. Sky News attempted an appointment-to-view schedule in 2005 and the general consensus on here at the time was that it failed. What makes the BBC think they can make it work again?
Looking forward to seeing how these new shows work, but I'm a little surprised. BBC News 24, as was, got rid of most of their non-rolling news programming around 2000 (e.g. Zero 30, which became Liquid News), with Click Online seemingly the sole survivor. Sky News attempted an appointment-to-view schedule in 2005 and the general consensus on here at the time was that it failed. What makes the BBC think they can make it work again?
Indeed and it was notable how much improved BBC News 24 was after it ditched them. Have to say I think this is a terrible move. Victoria Derbyshire can be a polarising presenter and I just don't think she has a style suited to a 24 hour news channel. The 'digital first' idea is a poor gimmick and moves away from the quality, 'no-nonsense' journalism which is the BBC's comparative strength in the news market. The absolute key point for me however is that most developments/breaking news occurs in that morning slot, and to attempt appointment to view seems completely contradictory to the purpose of the channel. Additionally hope Simon McCoy is found a new role, given he is one of the channel's strongest presenters. From a few of his tweets today it doesn't seem certain where he's going.
The show will probably end up being on BBC Two only when those events happen with a duty presenter ready to take over to cover the press conferences and other breaking news events when they occur.
However if you really want to cut costs and have this appointment to view format in mid-morning, then at least get an all rounder who can switch from the fluff to the rolling news format.
Also the BBC can say that they'll be covering business from 8.30am on the NC for 30 mins, yet they'll be no business bulletin as part of the normal NC service until 1145. Sky will have at least two biz bulletins while her show is on air on the NC.
However if you really want to cut costs and have this appointment to view format in mid-morning, then at least get an all rounder who can switch from the fluff to the rolling news format.
Surely she is well suited to doing that after all those years on 5 Live. That is the station's format for a lot of the time and what its presenters (with a couple of exceptions at weekends) are hired to do
However if you really want to cut costs and have this appointment to view format in mid-morning, then at least get an all rounder who can switch from the fluff to the rolling news format.
Surely she is well suited to doing that after all those years on 5 Live. That is the station's format for a lot of the time and what its presenters (with a couple of exceptions at weekends) are hired to do
Radio and television are completely different mediums. What may work well on radio doesn't transfer to television. What I've seen of her on the NC hasn't exactly been impressive.
In any case, you don't need a 'name' to present a such a show. Breakfast has proved that you can have one of the all-rounders to switch from heavy news to interview someone from The Voice.
There's a lot of conclusion jumping going on here... What's to say that the new show won't feature business updates? Maybe even sport updates...and surely not, news updates? This sounds like a good way of perking up the daytime output when nothing much is happening rather than suggesting that Victoria Derbyshire will be doing a talk show while President Obama announces he is going to war with Iran.
It's the same skill though, in fact its probably easier on TV as there's more support and there's pictures to talk to.
Not sure about that. Radio is more forgiving of dead air than TV, and with radio you don't have to worry about what you look like or where you are looking, and can be waving your arms all over the place to get attention, be given lots of last minute copy, be franticlly leafing through scripts/copy without the audience knowing etc.
I think it will be interesting to see how this pans out - and what Victoria's role is - and whether there is a supporting team of news, sport and business presenters? And where the show comes from? And how it sits in the channel schedule etc.
It's the same skill though, in fact its probably easier on TV as there's more support and there's pictures to talk to.
Not sure about that. Radio is more forgiving of dead air than TV, and with radio you don't have to worry about what you look like or where you are looking, and can be waving your arms all over the place to get attention, be given lots of last minute copy, be franticlly leafing through scripts/copy without the audience knowing etc.
I think it will be interesting to see how this pans out - and what Victoria's role is - and whether there is a supporting team of news, sport and business presenters? And where the show comes from? And how it sits in the channel schedule etc.
What a load of absolute rubbish!
Radio is not more forgiving of dead air than TV. I should know, I present radio. Dead air aka silence on radio, is regarded as a cardinal sin. You just don't do it. At least with television, you have pictures that go along with the silence.
During a show, a presenter is mostly focused on what they're saying or doing on the air. A producer may talk to them in their headphones on occasion to let them know about breaking news, or they might send them a message on their computer. Most scripts and copy now are on computer rather than paper.
Overall, a radio studio atmosphere is a lot calmer than the equivalent atmosphere in a TV studio, and Victoria has been getting used to having more voices in her ear than she had in radio.
Anyway, what did she do, run over your cat or something?
Nope. I'm defending the right to debate the fact that the NC is in effect losing two and half hours of rolling news and padding it with an ex 5 Live presenter who refused to move to Salford and is being rewarded with a talk show which would be fine on BBC Two and not filling the cracks in the NC's budget.
As mentioned earlier, Sky tried appointment to view and it failed, News 24 dumped the majority of it's filler output on weekdays. A much more palatable alternative would be to simulcast World until 11am (with UK heads during the commercial breaks) with the back half hour with a sports/biz bulletin for the UK.
In any case, there's a semi decent tabloid skewed topical discussion show which has been going for over 15 years, The Wright Stuff on Channel 5.
