The Newsroom

New BBC Singapore studio

I thought that splitting it from the main thread might be nice... (July 2015)

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myan
This shot angle always appear to me that either the display monitors or the lighting are/is rather dim. Especially in this screencap, you can see that the left and centre monitor doesn't match the brightness of the right monitor. Maybe the brightness is compromised by daylight from the window or maybe I'm just too used to the brightness of Studio C's catwalk?

http://s11.postimg.cc/f50qb9gmb/catwalklights.png
DE
deejay
Possibly more to do with the angle at which those screens are to the camera? Some flat screens can suffer badly from colourimetry and brightness issues when off axis.
DE
deejay
L89 posted:
It's good for interviews.

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Very nice shot, hadn't seen a 1+2 on the new Singapore set til now. Shows what a huge overall improvement this is to the setup in Singapore.
NG
noggin Founding member
myan posted:
This shot angle always appear to me that either the display monitors or the lighting are/is rather dim. Especially in this screencap, you can see that the left and centre monitor doesn't match the brightness of the right monitor. Maybe the brightness is compromised by daylight from the window or maybe I'm just too used to the brightness of Studio C's catwalk?

http://s11.postimg.cc/f50qb9gmb/catwalklights.png


Could be the still-present issue of LCDs not being great off axis.

It's one of the reasons that plasmas have always been preferred for studio in-vision use (as they don't suffer from off-axis brightness and colour changes to anywhere near the same degree) However plasmas are now end-of-life from most manufacturers, and OLEDs have not yet reached the point where they are available at the right sizes (or the right price), so at the moment there may not be a choice other than to use LCD backlit screens. (LED matrix screens are still too coarse pitch for use in that way, particularly in HD)

LCD (and the oft-mis-described 'LED' aka LED-backlit LCD) screens are still not ideal for in-vision use unless you can guarantee to only shoot them very frontally and with a camera height roughly the same as the screen height (pan off or elevate/depress off axis and you have issues even with very good screens)

The News Channel studio uses LCD screens for down-the-line monitors, but they are almost always shot on-axis, so perform relatively well. (Though they are a very different colour temperature to the plasmas in the same studio - as can be seen in the wide shots at the top of bulletins where the logo in the plasma and the logo in the LCD are very different colours of white...)

LCDs are also a no-no if you use polarising filters on windows and cameras to control window exposure ISTR. But I don't think Singapore are doing this.
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myan
But it does seem the orange strip under and blue strip above (lightbox probably?) are dim too.

What about the monitor panels in Studio C's catwalk? Are they LCD too? I seem to find them okay in terms of brightness. The cameras there also shoots from a tilted angle the way Rico is.
DT
DTV
Out of interest why are the lightboxes Cyan and Orange? Surely they should be Purple and Orange for Newsday and just Orange for ABR. Cyan doesn't feature in either of the titles.
MY
myan
DTV posted:
Out of interest why are the lightboxes Cyan and Orange? Surely they should be Purple and Orange for Newsday and just Orange for ABR. Cyan doesn't feature in either of the titles.


Just a bit of observation..

In London, the lightbox above and below the skyline backdrop is always set the same colour, somewhat more of a baby blue. The catwalk in London has baby blue for the strip above and I would say more of amber (likely the same colour from the previous Newsday format) for the strip below.

Over in Singapore, usually I see sort of steel blue for the lightbox above and dark orange for the lightbox below. I don't think the colours match those in London perfectly.
DO
dosxuk
They could easily be the exact same colours in the lighting desk, but with the different ambient lighting and camera settings appear different on screen. Singapore will always appear different to London because of the big window in the studio, and it will vary every day, so you can't even take that into account and try to make them look the same.

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SC
scottishtv Founding member
Okay, I'm still ranting on this one - but Newsday still thinks this is an acceptable standard shot, and uses it a lot:
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It's so annoying as the previous story was some breaking news (from the desk) and looked so much better, framed properly:
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MY
myan
In the standing shot, maybe it would have looked a lot more suitable if Babita was presenting weather. Very Happy

I'm still a little bit annoyed by too much computer-imposed graphics in the new format. For one, the headlines being superimposed on the screen. It is a little backwards in my opinion considering they could have fully utilise the vast display monitors they have.

Can anyone give any detail on whether the monitor behind the desk ( Studio C) that displays the skyline backdrop, is able to be used as a news wall (like how it is done in Studio B for Impact)? I think I've read somewhere that the said monitor is a much lower grade monitor and historically I've never seen it used for any news graphics other than as a backdrop theme.
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harshy Founding member
Okay, I'm still ranting on this one - but Newsday still thinks this is an acceptable standard shot, and uses it a lot:
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They've changed the standup shot and made it look worse as you can see the top part of the studio now Sad
NG
noggin Founding member
myan posted:

Can anyone give any detail on whether the monitor behind the desk (Studio C) that displays the skyline backdrop, is able to be used as a news wall (like how it is done in Studio B for Impact)? I think I've read somewhere that the said monitor is a much lower grade monitor and historically I've never seen it used for any news graphics other than as a backdrop theme.


I think that screen is a diffused LED matrix display (not an LED-backlit LCD display), which is quite coarse pitch and thus low resolution and whilst suitable for image-based backdrops (that should look a little out of focus), it isn't designed for presentation graphics that need to carry text content. It's designed to function in a similar manner to the window out onto the Newsroom that Studio E has (and is why they feed it with a newsroom backdrop when News Channel programmes are in there)

It's similar technology to the screen in B that provides the backdrop for The Andrew Marr Show I believe.

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