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MU
Muckspreader

And are you really saying that if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_recovery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_continuity

Well thats fascinating...

AFAIK thegeek is working or has worked at the BBC and has made the greatest effort to pass on as much information as possible to those interested in the technology involved in bringing us our television programming. Despite the fact that not all of the information may be accurate (with the ever changing technology and business practices) it doesnt matter, because the information is presented with the best of their knowledge and good intentions. thegeek is a greatly valued member of this forum.

With every post it is becoming more obvious that Muckspreader has all the hallmarks of one of those evasive BBC Managers that get rolled out onto Newswatch. Instead of glibly drawing our attention to a Wikipedia site I would have hoped that one of our valued insiders would have actually given some insight into what would actually happen AT THE BBC, much like MediaBoy, gregmc, thegeek, BBCNIcky and others.


Business Continuity and Disaster Recovery are both highly sensitive things which aren't blabbed about on public forums such as this.
DT
DTV

Business Continuity and Disaster Recovery are both highly sensitive things which aren't blabbed about on public forums such as this.


Don't bring them up then
DO
dosxuk
Business Continuity and Disaster Recovery are both highly sensitive things which aren't blabbed about on public forums such as this.


Except they are. And many of those types of discussions involve consequences which are a lot more serious than a few people not being able to watch Eastenders for five minutes. However, most of them have one thing in common - light in detail (especially access & locations), but heavy on the theory and basic capabilities.

Answering the question "if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service?" with a "Yes, they can" reveals nothing about the BBC's DR capabilities, or anything sensitive of use to someone wanting to cause trouble. TBH, even a "No, but hopefully nobody outside should notice", while more revealing, is only revealing information of use / interests to insiders and geeks.
SR
SomeRandomStuff

And are you really saying that if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_recovery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_continuity

Well thats fascinating...

AFAIK thegeek is working or has worked at the BBC and has made the greatest effort to pass on as much information as possible to those interested in the technology involved in bringing us our television programming. Despite the fact that not all of the information may be accurate (with the ever changing technology and business practices) it doesnt matter, because the information is presented with the best of their knowledge and good intentions. thegeek is a greatly valued member of this forum.

With every post it is becoming more obvious that Muckspreader has all the hallmarks of one of those evasive BBC Managers that get rolled out onto Newswatch. Instead of glibly drawing our attention to a Wikipedia site I would have hoped that one of our valued insiders would have actually given some insight into what would actually happen AT THE BBC, much like MediaBoy, gregmc, thegeek, BBCNIcky and others.


Business Continuity and Disaster Recovery are both highly sensitive things which aren't blabbed about on public forums such as this.


You could have easily answered thegeek's question and given some insight into the workings at the BBC without revealing sensitive information. You just decided to be dismissive and evasive about it.

Every comment of yours that i read leaves me feeling like i've just read: "...why should I bother to talk to the likes of you".
CH
chris

And are you really saying that if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_recovery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_continuity

Well thats fascinating...

AFAIK thegeek is working or has worked at the BBC and has made the greatest effort to pass on as much information as possible to those interested in the technology involved in bringing us our television programming. Despite the fact that not all of the information may be accurate (with the ever changing technology and business practices) it doesnt matter, because the information is presented with the best of their knowledge and good intentions. thegeek is a greatly valued member of this forum.

With every post it is becoming more obvious that Muckspreader has all the hallmarks of one of those evasive BBC Managers that get rolled out onto Newswatch. Instead of glibly drawing our attention to a Wikipedia site I would have hoped that one of our valued insiders would have actually given some insight into what would actually happen AT THE BBC, much like MediaBoy, gregmc, thegeek, BBCNIcky and others.


Business Continuity and Disaster Recovery are both highly sensitive things which aren't blabbed about on public forums such as this.


You could have easily answered thegeek's question and given some insight into the workings at the BBC without revealing sensitive information. You just decided to be dismissive and evasive about it.

Every comment of yours that i read leaves me feeling like i've just read: "...why should I bother to talk to the likes of you".


Indeed - we all appreciate insiders but there is no need for some attitudes.
HO
House
House posted:
I wonder if that "set" had originally been intended for the area NWT's Breakfast opts come from but they couldn't use it there for some reason?


If that had been the case, would it not have used NWT's branding instead of Breakfast's?


The branding to the desk has only recently been applied I think. It use to be in the tour area but it's now situated in Main Reception at Quay House.

It was custom made for the tours, nothing to do with NWT pres.


Sorry if I was confusing - I realised it was for the tours. I was rather pointing out that any set that went in the smaller 'Breakfast' area would surely have used North West Tonight's onscreen image - namely the different background - than have been a visual extension to the Breakfast set.

What do the Salford tours consist of, out of interest? How do they compare to the old TVC tours?
HO
House
Considering the nature of this conversation, I really hope Noggin, thegeek, gregmc, MediaBoy, generic, newsmonkey, BBCNicky et al realise how much we appreciate their contributions here. I'd bet we get more out of them being here than they do.
Last edited by House on 14 July 2013 1:22am
DO
dosxuk
House posted:
Considering the nature of this conversation, I really hope Noggin, thegeek, gregmc, MediaBoy, newsmonkey et al realise how much we appreciate their contributions here. I'd bet we get more out of them being here than they do.


+1
ST
Stuart
House posted:
Considering the nature of this conversation, I really hope Noggin, thegeek, gregmc, MediaBoy, newsmonkey et al realise how much we appreciate their contributions here. I'd bet we get more out of them being here than they do.

Indeed. Some people seem to be rather ungrateful.
AC
aconnell
House posted:
House posted:
I wonder if that "set" had originally been intended for the area NWT's Breakfast opts come from but they couldn't use it there for some reason?


If that had been the case, would it not have used NWT's branding instead of Breakfast's?


The branding to the desk has only recently been applied I think. It use to be in the tour area but it's now situated in Main Reception at Quay House.

It was custom made for the tours, nothing to do with NWT pres.


Sorry if I was confusing - I realised it was for the tours. I was rather pointing out that any set that went in the smaller 'Breakfast' area would surely have used North West Tonight's onscreen image - namely the different background - than have been a visual extension to the Breakfast set.

What do the Salford tours consist of, out of interest? How do they compare to the old TVC tours?


I went on one a year ago, and it started in Blue Peter studio in the studio block where we were told about the programme, then Dock House in a Radio 6 Music studio where Maconie and Radcliffe do their shows. Then to a radio drama studio, then the old interactive space to do a Breakfast bulletin and weather in Quay House. I was expecting more to be honest.
MY
myan
Looks like each presenter on BBCWN is given some flexibility on their presentation tools or arrangements. Upon finishing the introductory headlines, for two-person presentations like The World Today (Morning slots), some pairs prefer the camera to zoom in from front, some from a slightly tilted angle (Naga Munchetty always does). And also apart from these, some presenters will have lots of papers on the desk while some have very minimal papers or none on the desk. Each of them can bring some other things to the table too, some bring their own mouse, some bring an ipad or notebook. Studio C usually provides the newsreaders/guests with a transparent glass water. Occasionally we do see some bring other cups to air, like white mug, probably for some colored drinks like coffee, etc. (But I guess good old plain water is still the best for clearing one's throat when his voice is so critical on air).

Forgot another aspect, the newsreaders can always choose to use his left or right display panel for videoconferencing with remote correspondents/guests. The same newsreader would have preferred either left or right, so each time we see them videoconferencing, it will always be to that direction.
RO
roo
myan posted:
Studio C usually provides the newsreaders/guests with a transparent glass water. Occasionally we do see some bring other cups to air, like white mug, probably for some colored drinks like coffee, etc. (But I guess good old plain water is still the best for clearing one's throat when his voice is so critical on air).

This is interesting. Once I saw a semi-transparent mug. Its transparency suggests it contained water, but maybe it contained coffee, or tea, or other coloured beverage such as absinthe or Calpol. Do we have a taxonomy of News drinking vessels?

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