SP
I wonder if that "set" had originally been intended for the area NWT's Breakfast opts come from but they couldn't use it there for some reason?
HO
If that had been the case, would it not have used NWT's branding instead of Breakfast's?
I wonder if that "set" had originally been intended for the area NWT's Breakfast opts come from but they couldn't use it there for some reason?
If that had been the case, would it not have used NWT's branding instead of Breakfast's?
GR
If that had been the case, would it not have used NWT's branding instead of Breakfast's?
The branding to the desk has only recently been applied I think. It use to be in the tour area but it's now situated in Main Reception at Quay House.
It was custom made for the tours, nothing to do with NWT pres.
I wonder if that "set" had originally been intended for the area NWT's Breakfast opts come from but they couldn't use it there for some reason?
If that had been the case, would it not have used NWT's branding instead of Breakfast's?
The branding to the desk has only recently been applied I think. It use to be in the tour area but it's now situated in Main Reception at Quay House.
It was custom made for the tours, nothing to do with NWT pres.
NG
Sport don't have 'most' lines reserved for sport. Sport have 2 presentation circuits, which are nothing more than a source on a router. Please don't write things as fact which you clearly don't actually know to be the case.
Are you talking about Sport News or the wider BBC Sport operation, and are you talking about incoming or outgoing circuits?
Even a basic BBC One/Two sport show going through a BBC gallery in Salford will use 4-6 lines (Multi Main & Reserve, Uni Main & poss reserve, Outgoing Main & Reserve) These may not be dedicated circuits for sport but there must be some capacity allocated to sport in the planning of circuits. If you imagine this basic kind of show on BBC One and BBC Two at the same time - that would need 8-12 circuits - and more complex shows will need quite a lot more. (Some shows have multiple multis, additional circuits for replays etc.)
noggin
Founding member
Sport don't have 'most' lines reserved for sport. Sport have 2 presentation circuits, which are nothing more than a source on a router. Please don't write things as fact which you clearly don't actually know to be the case.
Are you talking about Sport News or the wider BBC Sport operation, and are you talking about incoming or outgoing circuits?
Even a basic BBC One/Two sport show going through a BBC gallery in Salford will use 4-6 lines (Multi Main & Reserve, Uni Main & poss reserve, Outgoing Main & Reserve) These may not be dedicated circuits for sport but there must be some capacity allocated to sport in the planning of circuits. If you imagine this basic kind of show on BBC One and BBC Two at the same time - that would need 8-12 circuits - and more complex shows will need quite a lot more. (Some shows have multiple multis, additional circuits for replays etc.)
GE
Utter nonsense.
Salford have exactly the same connectivity as a studio in NBH has. Connectivity wise, Salford is an offshoot of the NBH router, with its own local stuff too.
Sport don't have 'most' lines reserved for sport. Sport have 2 presentation circuits, which are nothing more than a source on a router. Please don't write things as fact which you clearly don't actually know to be the case.
And you really think there is no redundancy in the system, which can take up the slack if MCR2 goes off line?! Jeez.
I was referring to incoming lines. During Breakfast, SQ2 gets quite a few routed from MCR2 (16 rings a bell); but at 0915, a number of these are dedicated to Sports News, and the clean feed and 4-wire get routed to a different matrix in Salford. There are also a bunch of circuits which belong to Sport, and are used for incoming OBs. I believe CBBC 'own' a couple too for Newsround.
You could, in theory, switch everything back over to Breakfast mode, and try to run a channel from SQ2; but having seen the politics involved in attempting to use any of these circuits for anything other than their intended purpose, you'll generally get a flat refusal.
And are you really saying that if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service? I did once see a Millbank evac rehearsal, and it didn't go particularly smoothly.
As I'm sure I've said before, I never intend to post assumption as fact on here, and happy to be corrected - but would prefer it was done politely. All of the above is from memory, and while I admit it may contain a few approximations, 'utter nonsense' is going a bit far.
Dateline London was in the newsroom set, wasn't it? I thought it just looked a bit dingy because they hadn't lit the newsroom.
Looking at it again it could well be, with a grey cyc pulled across - it certainly looks like the rostrum is very close to the back wall so it could well be that cramped space in the newsroom.
You're quite right - I think I was confusing it with the 2000 power failure, which did use the newsroom set:
thegeek
Founding member
Connectivity is the major issue - Salford has the most lines (though most are reserved for sport), but if NBH had been evacuated, MCR2 (the area formerly known as SCAR) would have trouble routing things in and out of London.
Salford have exactly the same connectivity as a studio in NBH has. Connectivity wise, Salford is an offshoot of the NBH router, with its own local stuff too.
Sport don't have 'most' lines reserved for sport. Sport have 2 presentation circuits, which are nothing more than a source on a router. Please don't write things as fact which you clearly don't actually know to be the case.
And you really think there is no redundancy in the system, which can take up the slack if MCR2 goes off line?! Jeez.
You could, in theory, switch everything back over to Breakfast mode, and try to run a channel from SQ2; but having seen the politics involved in attempting to use any of these circuits for anything other than their intended purpose, you'll generally get a flat refusal.
And are you really saying that if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service? I did once see a Millbank evac rehearsal, and it didn't go particularly smoothly.
As I'm sure I've said before, I never intend to post assumption as fact on here, and happy to be corrected - but would prefer it was done politely. All of the above is from memory, and while I admit it may contain a few approximations, 'utter nonsense' is going a bit far.
When they went to Millbank after the IRA bomb they were in MB1, with the dingy grey Dateline London set. Presumably because they only had the one set of cameras and they had last been used in the studio so that's what they could get on air easiest.
Looking at it again it could well be, with a grey cyc pulled across - it certainly looks like the rostrum is very close to the back wall so it could well be that cramped space in the newsroom.
You're quite right - I think I was confusing it with the 2000 power failure, which did use the newsroom set:
WA
Im not sure if it's the same event but also BBC news with Darren Jordan & Carrie Gracie came from the studio set where you could clearly see staff behind them messing around.
The clip has been put on here before but as ever I can never find this clip.
The clip has been put on here before but as ever I can never find this clip.
SP
Appalling quality capture (well, I did capture it nearly 10 years ago on a set up that was crap even by the standards of the day)
MU
And are you really saying that if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_recovery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_continuity
And are you really saying that if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_recovery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_continuity
SR
And are you really saying that if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_recovery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_continuity
Well thats fascinating...
AFAIK thegeek is working or has worked at the BBC and has made the greatest effort to pass on as much information as possible to those interested in the technology involved in bringing us our television programming. Despite the fact that not all of the information may be accurate (with the ever changing technology and business practices) it doesnt matter, because the information is presented with the best of their knowledge and good intentions. thegeek is a greatly valued member of this forum.
With every post it is becoming more obvious that Muckspreader has all the hallmarks of one of those evasive BBC Managers that get rolled out onto Newswatch. Instead of glibly drawing our attention to a Wikipedia site I would have hoped that one of our valued insiders would have actually given some insight into what would actually happen AT THE BBC, much like MediaBoy, gregmc, thegeek, BBCNIcky and others.
And are you really saying that if MCR2 have to decamp to their backup location, they'll still be able to provide the same service?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_recovery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_continuity
Well thats fascinating...
AFAIK thegeek is working or has worked at the BBC and has made the greatest effort to pass on as much information as possible to those interested in the technology involved in bringing us our television programming. Despite the fact that not all of the information may be accurate (with the ever changing technology and business practices) it doesnt matter, because the information is presented with the best of their knowledge and good intentions. thegeek is a greatly valued member of this forum.
With every post it is becoming more obvious that Muckspreader has all the hallmarks of one of those evasive BBC Managers that get rolled out onto Newswatch. Instead of glibly drawing our attention to a Wikipedia site I would have hoped that one of our valued insiders would have actually given some insight into what would actually happen AT THE BBC, much like MediaBoy, gregmc, thegeek, BBCNIcky and others.
GU
Here's a video from Germany, which shows a UK correspondent in the BBC London studio, chatting about the weather.
(starts at 1:50)
http://download.media.tagesschau.de/video/2012/1011/TV-20121011-1942-4501.webm.h264.mp4
(From: http://www.tagesschau.de/videoblog/london_calling/regen156.html)
(starts at 1:50)
http://download.media.tagesschau.de/video/2012/1011/TV-20121011-1942-4501.webm.h264.mp4
(From: http://www.tagesschau.de/videoblog/london_calling/regen156.html)
BA
Worst mic placement I've seen in a while!
Bail
Moderator
Here's a video from Germany, which shows a UK correspondent in the BBC London studio, chatting about the weather.
(starts at 1:50)
http://download.media.tagesschau.de/video/2012/1011/TV-20121011-1942-4501.webm.h264.mp4
(From: http://www.tagesschau.de/videoblog/london_calling/regen156.html)
(starts at 1:50)
http://download.media.tagesschau.de/video/2012/1011/TV-20121011-1942-4501.webm.h264.mp4
(From: http://www.tagesschau.de/videoblog/london_calling/regen156.html)
Worst mic placement I've seen in a while!