NG
Someone mentioned that the LIVE graphic is either generated when they receive the feed or by the control room that's on air. Surprisingly to me the lower thirds are inserted down the transmission chain.
Live graphics are burned in quite a long way down the transmission chain, as otherwise recorded versions of the incoming feed would have the live graphics burned in, which you wouldn't want. (Or in another scenario LIVE graphics will be in different languages for different outlets taking the same live feed - say Farsi, Arabic and English)
I think most of the BBC News Channel on-screen furniture is added downstream of the main vision mixer in the gallery, but don't know specifically about the live bug.
In the 90s the live bug was automatically added downstream based on tally/cue outputs from the vision mixer, with Outside Source input tallies activating a live bug, and studio cameras, graphics, VT sources etc. inhibiting it. The vision mixer had to remember to disable the live bug on OS sources that were providing VT replays. (When the studio went from analogue to digital there was a delay in the tallies which mean the Live bug was out of sync by a frame or two, until that system was retired and the live graphics generated by the Aston that also generated the locator instead)
News 24 used to use separate DSKs for Live bug and locator - with the director manually getting the key + bgnd transitions right (or wrong) to add and lose the combination of live bug, location aston etc. By having a clean output pre-the DSK that added the live bug it was possible to record the studio output with the locator burned in but without the live bug)
noggin
Founding member
Does anyone know how the LIVE graphic is generated?, is it using the same system as the lower thirds? It seems to be on the feed both world and BBC news take and it shrinks when they show the sidebar graphics as well, there's also an underlying LIVE graphic but it's dark red and dosent have a location with it, has anyone noticed this?
Someone mentioned that the LIVE graphic is either generated when they receive the feed or by the control room that's on air. Surprisingly to me the lower thirds are inserted down the transmission chain.
Live graphics are burned in quite a long way down the transmission chain, as otherwise recorded versions of the incoming feed would have the live graphics burned in, which you wouldn't want. (Or in another scenario LIVE graphics will be in different languages for different outlets taking the same live feed - say Farsi, Arabic and English)
I think most of the BBC News Channel on-screen furniture is added downstream of the main vision mixer in the gallery, but don't know specifically about the live bug.
In the 90s the live bug was automatically added downstream based on tally/cue outputs from the vision mixer, with Outside Source input tallies activating a live bug, and studio cameras, graphics, VT sources etc. inhibiting it. The vision mixer had to remember to disable the live bug on OS sources that were providing VT replays. (When the studio went from analogue to digital there was a delay in the tallies which mean the Live bug was out of sync by a frame or two, until that system was retired and the live graphics generated by the Aston that also generated the locator instead)
News 24 used to use separate DSKs for Live bug and locator - with the director manually getting the key + bgnd transitions right (or wrong) to add and lose the combination of live bug, location aston etc. By having a clean output pre-the DSK that added the live bug it was possible to record the studio output with the locator burned in but without the live bug)
Last edited by noggin on 21 February 2016 1:45pm
GO
BBC NEWS has gone all out Breaking NEWS, push back etc that Boris will join the Leave campaign.
Sky NEWS still hedging their bets a little, not BREAKING form them yet.
Sky NEWS still hedging their bets a little, not BREAKING form them yet.
BA
The last time I remember this happening was when Simon McCoy was put to air by mistake:
http://weatherfieldgazette.co.uk/norris/b7osm.png
http://weatherfieldgazette.co.uk/norris/b7osm.png
RN
There's seems to be a piece of wire hanging from the ceiling in the News Channel studio - been there since atleast yesterday. Only really noticeable during wide shots mainly at the TOTH but still looks a bit messy.
WO
It's been like that for a few days.
There's seems to be a piece of wire hanging from the ceiling in the News Channel studio - been there since atleast yesterday. Only really noticeable during wide shots mainly at the TOTH but still looks a bit messy.
It's been like that for a few days.
DT
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/feb/24/peers-no-compelling-case-scaling-back-bbc
A few days old, but good to see that the Lords are in favour of the News Channel and overall critical of cuts to the News operation. But then again over the last few months the House of Lords has decided to act in the nation's interest, something the Commons seems to have given up on.
A few days old, but good to see that the Lords are in favour of the News Channel and overall critical of cuts to the News operation. But then again over the last few months the House of Lords has decided to act in the nation's interest, something the Commons seems to have given up on.
IN
The future of the channel in doubt again:
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/feb/29/bbc-news-cuts-news-channel
When does all of this uncertainty on the future of the BBC end?
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/feb/29/bbc-news-cuts-news-channel
When does all of this uncertainty on the future of the BBC end?
DE
I would say that article is pretty speculative. "Understood to be" "could be" "possibility of". None of those ideas are proposals and none are new. The idea that radio 5 live could move online was around last week and was, I think, completely debunked by the BBC. The idea that a radio station could live online is bizarre, given that a large percentage of listening still goes on in cars.
The fact is that the BBC needs to save a fortune but full closure of channels would be incredibly hard to justify against its public service remit. I fear however for the future of BBC Four, though that could strengthen BBC Two which IMO has lost its way in the multi-channel era. Radio 5 Live Sports Extra could successfully move online I think, and I dare say a lot of listening to the extra content on that station is done online already.
Closure of the BBC news channel is an interesting one. If you think about how much airtime is solely made by the channel, rather than taken from BBC World or shared with BBC One and Two, it's now down to something like 9 hours a day. Could there actually be more shared content across World and The Channel? Possibly, though editorial differences between the two have been highlighted by the current 9am bulletin, which remains very uk focussed between 0900 and 0914.
The fact is that the BBC needs to save a fortune but full closure of channels would be incredibly hard to justify against its public service remit. I fear however for the future of BBC Four, though that could strengthen BBC Two which IMO has lost its way in the multi-channel era. Radio 5 Live Sports Extra could successfully move online I think, and I dare say a lot of listening to the extra content on that station is done online already.
Closure of the BBC news channel is an interesting one. If you think about how much airtime is solely made by the channel, rather than taken from BBC World or shared with BBC One and Two, it's now down to something like 9 hours a day. Could there actually be more shared content across World and The Channel? Possibly, though editorial differences between the two have been highlighted by the current 9am bulletin, which remains very uk focussed between 0900 and 0914.
BR
The idea a TV station could live online despite a large percentage of viewing being on TV is bizarre too - but they went ahead with that.
Sadly nothing would surprise me now with the BBC and to be honest I'd much rather lose the news channel than 5 Live (or local radio), though I doubt much could be saved from it.
Sadly nothing would surprise me now with the BBC and to be honest I'd much rather lose the news channel than 5 Live (or local radio), though I doubt much could be saved from it.