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(November 2013)

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WA
watchingtv
London Lite posted:
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The script used by the CA was appalling, some viewers would have had no idea who President Zuma is.

Africa has invaded England, all hail President Zuma!? Very Happy
MI
Michael
London Lite posted:
The script used by the CA was appalling, some viewers would have had no idea who President Zuma is.


Script? I think it was more like.... "F***..... get on air, say SOMETHING!"
VM
VMPhil
Michael posted:
London Lite posted:
The script used by the CA was appalling, some viewers would have had no idea who President Zuma is.


Script? I think it was more like.... "F***..... get on air, say SOMETHING!"

Not as bad as

"This is BBC Television News. Buckingham Palace has just announced the death of the Queen Mother. In a statement the Palace said the Queen Mother has died. BBC Television is broadcasting this special programme reporting the Queen Mother's death".
AN
Andrew Founding member
Michael posted:
London Lite posted:
The script used by the CA was appalling, some viewers would have had no idea who President Zuma is.


Script? I think it was more like.... "F***..... get on air, say SOMETHING!"


"This is BBC One, we now interrupt this programme to cross over to the BBC News Channel"

Then the news channel presenter would announce the news, then the graphics would appear, and then they would join the press conference, correctly explaining who President Zuma is, and calling him the South African President Zuma.
MI
m_in_m
Marcus posted:
The way the Mandela announcement was handled was appalling.

I understand why BBC One missed the announcement, as no one was 100% sure what Zuma was going to say, but given Huw Edwards was just 20 minutes away from presenting the Ten O'Clock News why couldn't he have broken the news to BBC One viewers.

The other appalling thing was the Ten O'clock News then did nothing but Mandela, on the day massive storms were hitting the UK and the public spending review having just happened. Do the story justice and then let the News Channel take on the rolling coverage.

It must be remembered that if the same occurred now there is no guarantee it would be possible for the channel to go it's own way. With so much simulcasting now this must have impacted the gallery teams. There are presumably an additional 90 minutes where the news channel doesn't require a gallery (2030 - 2200) seven days a week.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
VMPhil posted:
Michael posted:
London Lite posted:
The script used by the CA was appalling, some viewers would have had no idea who President Zuma is.


Script? I think it was more like.... "F***..... get on air, say SOMETHING!"

Not as bad as

"This is BBC Television News. Buckingham Palace has just announced the death of the Queen Mother. In a statement the Palace said the Queen Mother has died. BBC Television is broadcasting this special programme reporting the Queen Mother's death".


And that had been rehearsed regularly!

For the Mandela situation, I wonder whether Studio E has the ability (at short notice) to duck the sound and have the presenter welcome BBC1 viewers and explain what is going on without interrupting the output on the News Channel or whether that would require a separate gallery?
MI
m_in_m
Steve in Pudsey posted:
VMPhil posted:
Michael posted:

Script? I think it was more like.... "F***..... get on air, say SOMETHING!"

Not as bad as

"This is BBC Television News. Buckingham Palace has just announced the death of the Queen Mother. In a statement the Palace said the Queen Mother has died. BBC Television is broadcasting this special programme reporting the Queen Mother's death".


And that had been rehearsed regularly!

For the Mandela situation, I wonder whether Studio E has the ability (at short notice) to duck the sound and have the presenter welcome BBC1 viewers and explain what is going on without interrupting the output on the News Channel or whether that would require a separate gallery?

I think it might be possible - studio A broadcasts a weather forecast for HD while simultaneously broadcasting the London opt. Clearly this is pre-planned though.
MA
Markymark
VMPhil posted:
Michael posted:
London Lite posted:
The script used by the CA was appalling, some viewers would have had no idea who President Zuma is.


Script? I think it was more like.... "F***..... get on air, say SOMETHING!"

Not as bad as

"This is BBC Television News. Buckingham Palace has just announced the death of the Queen Mother. In a statement the Palace said the Queen Mother has died. BBC Television is broadcasting this special programme reporting the Queen Mother's death".


To be blunt, BBC 1 and 2 continuity announcers should be capable of ad libbing sufficiently to be able to deliver in a credible and clear manner short announcements of national importance, at short notice and with sufficient gravitas. The same should also really apply to ITV, C4 and 5

There's no reason why they shouldn't deliver a Newsflash themselves (if need be), if it's just a simple short statement.
Last edited by Markymark on 17 January 2016 5:07pm
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LL
London Lite Founding member
It appears the NC will have a 'best of' Inside Out with a selection of the week's stories from the regional editions at 2030 on Friday presented by Elaine Dunkley.
LL
Larry the Loafer
Peter Sissons didn't really deserve the flack he got for that, providing what he wrote in his book was true. For whatever reason, he wasn't allowed to write his own script and didn't get a chance to look over what he was going to say before reading it live off the autocue. I'm sure in that initial announcement you can sense him saying to himself, "what the hell is this crap?"
NY
NYTV
Larry the Loafer posted:
Peter Sissons didn't really deserve the flack he got for that, providing what he wrote in his book was true. For whatever reason, he wasn't allowed to write his own script and didn't get a chance to look over what he was going to say before reading it live off the autocue. I'm sure in that initial announcement you can sense him saying to himself, "what the hell is this crap?"

I still don't understand why he got all that stick - - especially over the tie.
EL
elmarko
He got thrown well and truly under the bus and it sucked.

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