NG
Though that undermines what I imagine is the essential reason for the show, which is for BBC Two to effectively subsidise the News Channel for a couple of hours... Welcome to the results of a frozen licence fee, broadcast inflation and the BBC funding rural broadband, S4C, local television and the World Service...
noggin
Founding member
To my mind the News Channel should just be about news and the Victoria Derbyshire programme should just be on BBC2..
Though that undermines what I imagine is the essential reason for the show, which is for BBC Two to effectively subsidise the News Channel for a couple of hours... Welcome to the results of a frozen licence fee, broadcast inflation and the BBC funding rural broadband, S4C, local television and the World Service...
BA
It is like that every week.
Watching this mornings 0530 broadcast of The Travel Show, it seems to have been broadcast in the wrong ratio with black borders all around.
It is like that every week.
VM
I believe the phrase is "undue prominence", which in my opinion this would come under. Unless anyone can explain why it isn't?
I'm curious how is this any different than having a movie star coming out and talking about their movie for ten minutes? This was a different way to get people talking about the movie while cross promoting BBC shows.
I think it's a lot different. Hard hitting they are not, but they don't tend to come across as blatant adverts for the film since they are conducted for other channels and media outlets. This video isn't using a certain actor or group of people known from TV/film - it's using characters, characters that are not owned by the BBC and are used in other advertisements, such as Sky, which is why to me this video comes across like an advertisement too. To me it's worrying that the BBC would use commercial characters in such a way, regardless of whether you find the video well-made or not.
Isn't the BBC supposed not to show adverts, or how should I define this kind of promotion?
I believe the phrase is "undue prominence", which in my opinion this would come under. Unless anyone can explain why it isn't?
I'm curious how is this any different than having a movie star coming out and talking about their movie for ten minutes? This was a different way to get people talking about the movie while cross promoting BBC shows.
I think it's a lot different. Hard hitting they are not, but they don't tend to come across as blatant adverts for the film since they are conducted for other channels and media outlets. This video isn't using a certain actor or group of people known from TV/film - it's using characters, characters that are not owned by the BBC and are used in other advertisements, such as Sky, which is why to me this video comes across like an advertisement too. To me it's worrying that the BBC would use commercial characters in such a way, regardless of whether you find the video well-made or not.
DV
It is like that every week.
Really? First time I've noticed - is it just on the 0530 broadcast?
Watching this mornings 0530 broadcast of The Travel Show, it seems to have been broadcast in the wrong ratio with black borders all around.
It is like that every week.
Really? First time I've noticed - is it just on the 0530 broadcast?
BA
It is like that every week.
Really? First time I've noticed - is it just on the 0530 broadcast?
It's been like that every time I've watched, at varying times of the day.
Watching this mornings 0530 broadcast of The Travel Show, it seems to have been broadcast in the wrong ratio with black borders all around.
It is like that every week.
Really? First time I've noticed - is it just on the 0530 broadcast?
It's been like that every time I've watched, at varying times of the day.
DV
It is like that every week.
Really? First time I've noticed - is it just on the 0530 broadcast?
It's been like that every time I've watched, at varying times of the day.
Oh right, I've never noticed before!
Watching this mornings 0530 broadcast of The Travel Show, it seems to have been broadcast in the wrong ratio with black borders all around.
It is like that every week.
Really? First time I've noticed - is it just on the 0530 broadcast?
It's been like that every time I've watched, at varying times of the day.
Oh right, I've never noticed before!
Last edited by dvboy on 27 June 2015 7:59pm - 2 times in total
BA
It is like that every week.
Really? First time I've noticed - is it just on the 0530 broadcast?
It's been like that every time I've watched, at varying times of the day.
Oh right, I've never noticed before!
Yeah, I only noticed it after the first couple of times I watched it. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
Watching this mornings 0530 broadcast of The Travel Show, it seems to have been broadcast in the wrong ratio with black borders all around.
It is like that every week.
Really? First time I've noticed - is it just on the 0530 broadcast?
It's been like that every time I've watched, at varying times of the day.
Oh right, I've never noticed before!
Yeah, I only noticed it after the first couple of times I watched it. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
NG
noggin
Founding member
Yes - whole show looks like it has been shrunk, rather than it being an up/down-conversion error. (720 v s702x576 errors can cause black bars on the left and right when up-converting SD to HD incorrectly)
Wonder if something in the show isn't quite graphics safe and so they "fixed" it by shrinking it?
Wonder if something in the show isn't quite graphics safe and so they "fixed" it by shrinking it?
SC
scottishtv
Founding member
I'm watching on Virgin Media, and the 1230hrs broadcast has the black bars in SD on BBC News (Ch 601), but it's all fine, and filling a 16:9 screen with no bars on BBC News HD (Ch 604).