TV Home Forum

Eurovision 2016

10th, 12th and 14th May 2016 - Globen Stockholm - UK rep. Joe and Jake: You're Not Alone (March 2015)

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
HC
Hatton Cross
The easy answer for the non-voting SF is simply to start broadcasting the show at 8.10, and on the fly edit out all the performance reprises, ad breaks and other 'call to arms' voting after the original you can't vote mention at the top of the show by the host.

Once that's done, you'd be back live for the SF qualifier reveals - although there is an argument for hacking them down to...remove..........the........
overly............long......tension..............building.......................pauses
DV
DVB Cornwall
This sounds interesting (or ominous)



DE
deejay
I'll fall off my chair if it's the return of the orchestra in some shape or form, but I thoroughly doubt it will be. The last few years have seen a major increase in the use of production automation, to the extent where the backing track is actually driving everything: camera moves, lighting changes as well as camera cuts. Triggering that stuff when there's a live band playing would be tricky, though arguably not impossible if they are all rigidly tied to a click track.
HC
Hatton Cross
Please let it be a change in the final voting, where the loosing semi finalist countries votes are collected as normal, but then grouped together in 2 or 3 equal groups, and marks awarded in the usual way after aggregation.
Harsh. Yes. But it would cut down and equal out any political voting...

..but it'll be something silly, like giving the audience in the arena a 12 points vote to award at the start of the voting..
BA
bilky asko
The easy answer for the non-voting SF is simply to start broadcasting the show at 8.10, and on the fly edit out all the performance reprises, ad breaks and other 'call to arms' voting after the original you can't vote mention at the top of the show by the host.

Once that's done, you'd be back live for the SF qualifier reveals - although there is an argument for hacking them down to...remove..........the........
overly............long......tension..............building.......................pauses


That would ruin social media interaction though.
HC
Hatton Cross
Fine. Go watch it via the You Tube live stream, so you can read and receive tweets in 160 characters or less broken English from 15 year old Albanians on Twitter.

For the rest of us, watching a 'can't vote, unfunny break filler' free Eurovision, would be great..
CI
cityprod
Fine. Go watch it via the You Tube live stream, so you can read and receive tweets in 160 characters or less broken English from 15 year old Albanians on Twitter.

For the rest of us, watching a 'can't vote, unfunny break filler' free Eurovision, would be great..


You're missing the point. Everything now, even stuff that is pre-recorded way in advance, is being turned into 'event programming' by use of things like twitter hashtags and social media. This is a way of counteracting the effect of services like Netflix and Hulu.

In this case, Eurovision actually is event programming, and social media interaction should be a recognised part of that process. It is in the same category as live sports now, as being one of the few things that people will tune into because it's not in the can way in advance and available on Netflix. It's a way of getting the 'shared experience' of television back, something that some feel has been lost by the arrival of hundreds of TV channels.
NG
noggin Founding member
The easy answer for the non-voting SF is simply to start broadcasting the show at 8.10, and on the fly edit out all the performance reprises, ad breaks and other 'call to arms' voting after the original you can't vote mention at the top of the show by the host.

Once that's done, you'd be back live for the SF qualifier reveals - although there is an argument for hacking them down to...remove..........the........
overly............long......tension..............building.......................pauses


Easy on paper, tricky to do in reality.

You'd struggle to get back fully live cleanly, though you could continue to delay (and the editing would cost more - plus you'd have to be very careful with the mechanics of the commentary). I suspect you'd probably use a 30 minute delay, as the combined reprises, filler content between reprises, edits to remove "remember to vote" calls to action etc. Would mean you'd be left with a Hello and welcome, 20ish songs (minus the ad break or two in the performances), and then the results.

However social media interaction would kill that idea at the moment. Delaying an 'event' wouldn't really wash.
NG
noggin Founding member
I wonder if they will introduce live app voting, with multiple votes, as SVT have for Melodifestivalen, with feedback on-screen? (Like the SVT Melodifestivalen "heart voting")

Given the spectacular failure of that during the 2015 Melodifestivalen final, that might be quite brave (and open to manipulation?) - and if, as is required for the SVT app, you have to be a Facebook or Google+ member to register, the BBC will duck out I suspect.

The BBC only allowed voting from the ESC app this year, for the first time, because it was implemented as a normal phone vote that happened in the background ISTR. Any form of internet voting is likely to need to pass a lot of barriers for the BBC to support it.
BA
bilky asko
Fine. Go watch it via the You Tube live stream, so you can read and receive tweets in 160 characters or less broken English from 15 year old Albanians on Twitter.

For the rest of us, watching a 'can't vote, unfunny break filler' free Eurovision, would be great..


I'll be on **, thank you very much.
TI
tightrope78
Meanwhile in Sweden viewing figures for the first Melodifestivalen semi final have been finalised at 3.34 million. When you consider that the population of Sweden is 9.845 million that is a staggering percentage of around one third of the population watching a heat!

http://blogg.svt.se/melodifestivalen-expertbloggen/
RS
Rob_Schneider
Amazing figures. I watch on with more than a little jealousy. If an NF could command that level here it would be magical.

Newer posts