8 to 14 year olds

I remember when Nickelodeon used to close down with this:

I reckon CBBC target that age groups with the likes of The Sarah Jane Adventures, Wolfblood and the upcoming Doctor Who spinoff 'Class'

You mean something like Nick at nick? Even Nick Jr had noggan.

I get the impression that television for that demographic talks *at* kids rather than *to* them. An episode of Art Attack was just posted in the Youtube Gold thread, and I reckon if you showed it to somebody who had no idea what CITV was, it wouldn't be blatantly obvious that it was a kids show. Neil Buchanan talks to you like a mate rather than a superior. Even when I watched the CBBC anniversary thing last year, I still got the impression that the presenters were like big brothers/sisters rather than "friends", which was the impression I used to get from shows growing up in the 90s. Even the cable channels like Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon felt far edgier back then than they do now. CN was almost like a darker, crazier alternative to the likes of CBBC, and Nick IMO seemed like what it essentially was - MTV for younger people.

Of course, now I'm 24, the state of kids television shouldn't really concern me (unless Cartoon Network slip in a sneaky repeat of Cow and Chicken) but it does make me sad that the effort no longer seems to be there.

It's apt that I'm watching this just before I go to bed...

You also had the Saturday morning shows which were officially kids shows but which often had humour that worked on two levels and appealed to adults too. Trevor and Simon were masters of that, and SM:TV Live. You could continue to appreciate those shows at whatever level was appropriate as you grew up. I'm not sure that transition is there these days. Cartoon Network in the 90s was full of classic Warner Bros cartoons which had a more universal appeal.

You don't get much "family" Light Entertainment these days - Saturday Takeaway excepted perhaps. The Noel's House Party style shows that shared a lot with the classic Saturday morning show format and helped you to transition between kids' programmes and more general stuff as you got older.

I guess the marginalisation of kids TV to specific channels rather than being part of the mainstream schedules doesn't help that transition either. You don't get the CBBC/CITV audience being led into Neighbours/Home and Away these days.

Class is a BBC Three (and BBC One) show, not CBBC - it's target audience is more like Torchwood's than SJA's. I thought the Nick at Nite brand wasn't used in the UK?

It isn't afaik. When Nickelodeon UK was being planned there were tentative plans for it which ultimately evolved into what became The Paramount Channel, now Comedy Central.

Going by the description of the video, the person uploaded it is also the person who created it and sung it! There's also a 'good morning' version of those cows too on his channel!

Comedy Central might turn into Paramount Channel in later 2016.
http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/rumour-up-to-seven-channels-may-launch.html

Were been here a few times haven't we? All these theads have had talk about this:

* http://www.tvforum.co.uk/tvhome/cbbc-birthday-41010/
* http://www.tvforum.co.uk/tvhome/saturday-morning-41079/
* http://www.tvforum.co.uk/tvhome/evening-classic-bbc-childrens-programmes-41228/
* http://www.tvforum.co.uk/tvhome/scrambled-new-itv-weekend-kids-39689/

Its an utter shame, there is also this from Knightmare website: I cant find it on the site but it stated how the then CITV controlled believe the battle was already lost with these viewers and it was no point going on.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100108122229/http://www.knightmare.com/history/index4.htm




Neil, Timmy, and even Glen ( from STV) all made it clear you should NEVER talk down to kids just play it straight. Yet to this day people who have been saying this for over 50 years are still told to shut it.



Thats because there were, you have

You should be, because you might have kids or be an uncle at some point and there should be something there for them.




I still believe if BBC or ITV spent the money there could easliy get 2millions back on Saturday morning, but I just think both are currently filled with yes men who do not see the bigger picture. I also think that way the Saturday nights dont really start until 6pm nowdays yet back in the 80s and most of the 90s its was 5pm to 11pm.

I am an uncle. I also think Mister Maker is a colossal bellend, hence why the state doesn't directly affect me, it does concern me like I said.


Loosely related, I just found this on Youtube. I know the clip relates to slightly older folk than the topic of this thread but it's touching upon the same issue...