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BBC News Channel General Discussion

(November 2013)

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DV
dvboy
Austin Tatious posted:


Was wondering whether a truncated Business Live would appear at 8:45 or something, but it's not looking likely.


Business Live went out on World only.


DA
DAN09690
London Lite posted:
This has to be a first. VD techincally became a NC bulletin with standard graphics presented by Norman Baker.

Norman Smith! Norman Baker was a Lib Dem MP. During the Paris Attacks the progamme kept the normal NC graphics.
IL
i-lied
noggin posted:
i-lied posted:
m_in_m posted:
Isn't the time needed though to seat the guests etc. The challenge causes by sharing studios - plus the gallery team probably all changes as well.


I think so too. Couldn't the 10 presenter move to the screens at :25 to allow the guests to be seated like the NC presenter does for the 1?


Very unlikely I'd suggest. You wouldn't want your final BBC One shot to be a flat screen shot, and what if the final item on the Ten was a studio interview updating the top story or breaking news?

I think it's very unlikely, in the current regime, that the Ten would be asked to compromise for the sake of the channel...


Would swapping Sportsday and the Papers not make it work?
SN
The SNT Three
i-lied posted:
noggin posted:
i-lied posted:

I think so too. Couldn't the 10 presenter move to the screens at :25 to allow the guests to be seated like the NC presenter does for the 1?


Very unlikely I'd suggest. You wouldn't want your final BBC One shot to be a flat screen shot, and what if the final item on the Ten was a studio interview updating the top story or breaking news?

I think it's very unlikely, in the current regime, that the Ten would be asked to compromise for the sake of the channel...


Would swapping Sportsday and the Papers not make it work?


I think that would make sense. The sport always comes on after the :30 headlines anyway...
HB
HarryB
Bowie special now on One and NC - Jeremy Vine presents from Studio B in VDP colours
WO
Worzel
It's the husband and wife team this evening on the News channel with Rachel Schofield on the channel plus the Jeremy Vine tribute show.
PA
PATV Scunthorpe
HarryBNF posted:
Bowie special now on One and NC - Jeremy Vine presents from Studio B in VDP colours

Also a black cover on the catwalk space with some ?spotlights? (not sure if they are spotlights in front.
IL
i-lied
The SNT Three posted:
i-lied posted:
noggin posted:

Very unlikely I'd suggest. You wouldn't want your final BBC One shot to be a flat screen shot, and what if the final item on the Ten was a studio interview updating the top story or breaking news?

I think it's very unlikely, in the current regime, that the Ten would be asked to compromise for the sake of the channel...


Would swapping Sportsday and the Papers not make it work?


I think that would make sense. The sport always comes on after the :30 headlines anyway...


yes, especially now that the Ten goes all the way to :30. The Ten presenter could always introduce the programme.
WA
watchingtv
But wouldnt Sport at :45 be the time the presenter would use to prepare for the next hour?
MI
m_in_m
Isn't it more that having The Papers at :30 means it's on at the same time seven days a week.

I doubt the presenter needs much time to prep. In case of the first showing they've been off screen for two hours and the second showing they now finish afterwards.
BR
Brekkie
The SNT Three posted:
Markymark posted:
Jay Lee posted:
but still... who watches BBC Parliament??


Very few, but regrettably many of them are the ones with the influence to affect and direct the BBC's licence fee revenue.

Therefore I'll let you decide whether scrapping BBC P would be A Good Thing or not !


That's true.

The statistics DTV mentions above prove that BBC Parliament is a massive waste of money. They have Democracy Live online if you want to watch something back; the demand for watching drawn-out parliamentary debates which are often of little irrelevance is quite understandably low. But if the BBC were to suggest scrapping it, the politicians would start preaching the importance of the service and the 'key role' it plays in increasing our political awareness. In fact, I honestly believe this service lends itself to a shift online far more than BBC Three.... It's already there in the form of Democracy Live. But nobody is above a politician in this country Rolling Eyes

Agree - Democracy Live is actually a brilliant service and far better relative to the linear TV channel than the BBC3 page of the iPlayer is to BBC3. It really should be made available via Connected TV and as an app, while BBC Parliament closing releasing tangible bandwidth on all platforms, not just a few hours after 9pm they haven't a clue what to do with. Today at Parliament really would be better served as a show on the News Channel - whether that's at 11.30pm or whether they're bold enough to put it in primetime.

It would be interesting how that £10.5m cost breaks down. That's far more than I thought it was for an audience so tiny it's barely significant. Does that cost include actually filming the chambers or is that covered by Parliament itself?
DT
DTV
Brekkie posted:
The SNT Three posted:
Markymark posted:

Very few, but regrettably many of them are the ones with the influence to affect and direct the BBC's licence fee revenue.

Therefore I'll let you decide whether scrapping BBC P would be A Good Thing or not !


That's true.

The statistics DTV mentions above prove that BBC Parliament is a massive waste of money. They have Democracy Live online if you want to watch something back; the demand for watching drawn-out parliamentary debates which are often of little irrelevance is quite understandably low. But if the BBC were to suggest scrapping it, the politicians would start preaching the importance of the service and the 'key role' it plays in increasing our political awareness. In fact, I honestly believe this service lends itself to a shift online far more than BBC Three.... It's already there in the form of Democracy Live. But nobody is above a politician in this country Rolling Eyes

Agree - Democracy Live is actually a brilliant service and far better relative to the linear TV channel than the BBC3 page of the iPlayer is to BBC3. It really should be made available via Connected TV and as an app, while BBC Parliament closing releasing tangible bandwidth on all platforms, not just a few hours after 9pm they haven't a clue what to do with. Today at Parliament really would be better served as a show on the News Channel - whether that's at 11.30pm or whether they're bold enough to put it in primetime.

It would be interesting how that £10.5m cost breaks down. That's far more than I thought it was for an audience so tiny it's barely significant. Does that cost include actually filming the chambers or is that covered by Parliament itself?


I believe that the filming from inside the chambers is covered by Parliament itself as a feed also appears at Parliamentlive.tv and is accessible to other broadcasters such as C-SPAN, ITN and Sky. Proceedings from the European Parliament must be covered by the EU and I would assume the same for Scotland, Wales, London and Northern Ireland. I expect most of the budget is spent on infrastructure as they produce very little new programming and a lot of their staff must be shared with BBC News's Politics division.

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