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Discussion of BBC News Studios across the globe (March 2012)

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oflahertya
myan posted:
DTV posted:
myan posted:
Noted there, @JamesWorldNews and @dosxuk.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5020/06c9.png

Anybody knows if this is one of those hologram displays? Is it projected in the air in front of the LED/LCD panels? If so, I believe the item pointed with the arrow looks to be some sort of light filter that helps deliver the hologram, isn't it? I haven't seen this contraption at the start of BBC using this studio, I believe it was used only in more recently. Previously, I think they usually use the main LED/LCD for the conferences. Nevertheless, this hologram display brings a sort of modern Star-Trek like feeling to it, it would be great if they use it in other studios like C as well.


No it definitely is not one of those hologram displays, it is simply a back lit lightbox, the lines are probably the actual lights used to light it. For a start A - Why would the BBC Spend tonnes of money on a hologram display that they have never used? B - Why would they need a hologram? and C - Why would the put a Hologram Display about 7 feet off the ground?

I see. Well it looks like one. not too sure whether the technology is really out there and the costs, but I'm basing on the last I read about these displays in a magazine. So the lightbox, is it something similar to those multi-colored light boxes for decorating the different news strands?
Sorry, am clueless on how it works.
But I think the screen-like contraption above that I marked with arrow, it has to have something to do with the output right? Probably like a projector or something and that screen serves the image where light passes through it, and final image projected infront of the LED panels.

dosxuk posted:
D - what on Earth is a hologram display?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_screen
Display that projects into the air I guess.


How do you think it works? It is a SIMPLE light-box that displays light through different coloured boxes. Its not exactly a NASA Spacecraft is it?
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myan
james posted:
myan posted:
Sorry, am clueless on how it works.


So you can't work out how a bit of coloured perspex is lit from behind, however a hologram display is entirely conceivable in your mind?

Nope, I've never really knew the mechanics of the lightbox, maybe it's a commonplace thing in your part of the world, but the only I've heard it is here, about the colour strands.

Now, what is with all these hostility that I'm sensing directing at me? Did I do something wrong to ask questions that I'm curious about? And you guys seem to be thinking I'm asking silly things and making a mockery of it.
PE
Pete Founding member
myan posted:
And you guys seem to be thinking I'm asking silly things and making a mockery of it.


considering this for my new signature
DT
DTV
myan posted:
And you guys seem to be thinking I'm asking silly things and making a mockery of it.


Come on it's not a stupid suggestion, it's perfectly reasonable for the BBC to put a Hologram machine in Studio B just like it's perfectly reasonable to assume that Studio C has a circular rostrum so Thunderbird 3 can fly out at the end of the news or that Studio D hasn't been on air yet because of a secret military test going on under the BBC Newsroom. Or that Newsreaders in Studio E have to clean the glass during the weather. And of course hologram machines are Key Stage 1 Science compared to the Large Hadron Collider level physics of sticking some LEDs behind a Translucent piece of perspex.
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NG
noggin Founding member
The Studio B element in question isn't a "holographic" screen - it's a light box. Probably a frosted polycarbonate-fronted box with strips of internal LED lighting that can be used to alter the colour. The lines are there because the strips of LED probably aren't quite diffused enough. It's a slightly swankier version of the technology used to make illuminated shop signs. (Light tubes behind acrylic fronts)

BBC News have used "Holoscreens" in the past though. One of the Sport Today sets in N9 used one very effectively back in the day. They work best in dark sets, where the screens disappear when the projector is fed black (or switched off) and the black background means that black video looks black on-camera.

"Holoscreens" have nothing to do with holography though... They don't use any holographic techniques. They are just projection onto slightly cleverly designed surfaces.
PE
Pete Founding member
Critique posted:
It's seen at the start and end of the programme in that video, and it does indeed provide a quite nice move, and it isn't audible over everything else going on - does anyone know anything about this?


Perhaps because it tended to only have one presenter and the right hand part of the set was less important?

I can tell you this useful fact: I wasn't very good at driving it Sad
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Critique
Pete posted:
Critique posted:
It's seen at the start and end of the programme in that video, and it does indeed provide a quite nice move, and it isn't audible over everything else going on - does anyone know anything about this?


Perhaps because it tended to only have one presenter and the right hand part of the set was less important?

I can tell you this useful fact: I wasn't very good at driving it Sad


But surely the camera had the ability to turn around and face the right hand part of the set? It certainly faced the main desk when News 24 were occupying it, unless they rotated the set or something between N24 moving out and WN moving in.
PE
Pete Founding member
Critique posted:
But surely the camera had the ability to turn around and face the right hand part of the set?


Sorry, my point was actually referring to the normal move it did during the News 24 days which showed off the right hand bit of the set. Perhaps also the angle made it look odd when they were sitting at an angle to the desk like they did for World News Today with the barco wall behind them.



see 1:35
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denton
noggin posted:
The Studio B element in question isn't a "holographic" screen - it's a light box. Probably a frosted polycarbonate-fronted box with strips of internal LED lighting that can be used to alter the colour. The lines are there because the strips of LED probably aren't quite diffused enough. It's a slightly swankier version of the technology used to make illuminated shop signs. (Light tubes behind acrylic fronts).


I've never quiet 'got' what the designer thought this pointless square of colour would add to the look of the set. You can, almost, see why someone might assume that it serves some technical purpose... because if it doesn't serve a purpose, why would you add a random square that does not nothing other than detract from the circular design!?
PE
Pete Founding member
denton posted:
I've never quiet 'got' what the designer thought this pointless square of colour would add to the look of the set. You can, almost, see why someone might assume that it serves some technical purpose... because if it doesn't serve a purpose, why would you add a random square that does not nothing other than detract from the circular design!?


There's a second one on the other side which sort of evens it out, but as you don't see both at the same time it just emphasises the oddness

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NG
noggin Founding member
denton posted:

I've never quiet 'got' what the designer thought this pointless square of colour would add to the look of the set. You can, almost, see why someone might assume that it serves some technical purpose... because if it doesn't serve a purpose, why would you add a random square that does not nothing other than detract from the circular design!?


I guess it added a bit of "design" and gives you some flexibility - as you could make the squares a different colour to the hoop behind? Sometimes you just need stuff to break things up a bit. Or it might be a legacy from en earlier bit of the design where that motif popped up in more areas of the set? No idea.
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flaziola
Theoretical question. Suppose the BBC wish to use Studio E to anchor a scheduled major news event. (Example, The Elections) Could Studio C be used for rehearsals of a program intended to be broadcast from Studio E?

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