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BBC North West Tonight

(January 2009)

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IS
Inspector Sands
Presumably elements of the studio set/floor kit were being binned, sold or transferred and it couldn't wait for the final date?

It was probably more that they were decommissioning parts of the building over time and the studio was in one of those areas

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It's the only example I know of during a studio move where the output has actually ceased entirely over the weekend (in this case shared with Nottingham) rather than manage to be a straight switch the following day.

I believe that in the 80's the South East had a few weeks where they got BBC South instead, I think that was when Sixty Minutes ended and they were creating London Plus.

Similar but when BBC London moved a couple of years ago they did their last programme from Marylebone on the Friday night and the first from Broadcasting House on Monday morning, the 2 weekend bulletins were done from the old BBC World news studio, this was partially because a lot of the kit was moved over and also because the landlord's deadline was very close.
MA
Markymark
There are internal Raman fibre circuits in/out of New Broadcasting House in Manchester and in/out of Media City in Salford I believe - so you just book a path between the two, just as you would between either location and any other BBC centre.

Yes there would have to be as both centres have been live on air for the last few months.

I suppose it's different to the Pebble Mill close as the technology for the circuits have changed and also there was a definitive changeover day


As BBC North West is a fully DSO'd region, Winter Hill (and the Astra uplink) is fed via the CCMCs in London (and eleswhere Smile ), so unlike Birmingham's move, there are no analogue 'local ends' to move around.

I was in the midlands for Pebble Mill's last broadcast (Friday 22:30hrs) and straight after the opt to network, there was a crash on analogue to a noisy picture watching Sutton Coldfield (possibly to RBS from Oxford), followed by another splat, and clean video (probably SC's input feed being routed directly from London, or perhaps Nottingham ?).
NG
noggin Founding member
There is no BBC Manchester, it's BBC North West and has been since the 1980s Razz Since the move in fact, to NBH!


Not really.

The regional news region is BBC North West, however the network productions are branded BBC Productions Manchester (previously BBC Manchester) - though presumably this will now be BBC Productions Salford (or are they embracing BBC Productions North?)

c.f. BBC West vs BBC Productions Bristol
BBC West Midlands/Midlands vs BBC Productions Birmingham (RIP)

And BBC North vs BBC Productions Leeds, BBC East vs BBC Productions East, BBC South West vs BBC Productions Plymouth, BBC North East and Cumbria vs BBC Productions Newcastle etc. if/when those English regional centres made network programmes.

The regional name describes the entire region, the network production name describes the location of the production centre.
VM
VMPhil
...though presumably this will now be BBC Productions Salford (or are they embracing BBC Productions North?).


Question of Sport had BBC Productions Salford.

Interestingly, the first series of The Royle Family was credited as A Granada Production for BBC Manchester, but the other two series and the specials are credited as A Granada Production for BBC.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
And BBC North vs BBC Productions Leeds, BBC East vs BBC Productions East, BBC South West vs BBC Productions Plymouth, BBC North East and Cumbria vs BBC Productions Newcastle etc. if/when those English regional centres made network programmes.


BBC North is an interesting one - lots of Manchester network productions used to be credited as BBC North, and at one time so did regional productions from Newcastle as well as Leeds.

Network programmes from Leeds such as Helicopter Heroes get credited as "BBC English Regions"
CH
chris
Tell that to people like me who live in Liverpool. BBC Manchester? No thanks!


I have no issue with BBC Manchester being a scouser myself. If it's made in Manchester, then it's BBC Manchester.

As Noggin said, productions are more city-named whereas the news programmes and local programmes are more regionally-named.
MA
manclad
Hopefully where 'Manchester' is currently used it will remain that way. i.e what is the point of BBC Salford etc. There is the old argument about Manchester V's Salford but to most people Salford Quays is in Manchester. Lets stick with that.
MI
m_in_m
I've still never understood why Midlands Today moved out of their normal studio a couple of weeks before the move to The Mailbox, while they continued to use the old Studio B gallery.


Presumably elements of the studio set/floor kit were being binned, sold or transferred and it couldn't wait for the final date?

It's the only example I know of during a studio move where the output has actually ceased entirely over the weekend (in this case shared with Nottingham) rather than manage to be a straight switch the following day.

As regards the new set, surely we'll see it during Breakfast? Even if Breakfast are using the same set when they move next year there's nothing to stop them using it in the mornings until then.


What happened when Look East moved from St Catherine's Close to The Forum. Were the weekend bulletins provided by the Cambridge studio?
VM
VMPhil
chris posted:
Tell that to people like me who live in Liverpool. BBC Manchester? No thanks!


I have no issue with BBC Manchester being a scouser myself. If it's made in Manchester, then it's BBC Manchester.

As Noggin said, productions are more city-named whereas the news programmes and local programmes are more regionally-named.


I realised he was talking about productions instead of regional news after I posted that.
CH
chris
chris posted:
Tell that to people like me who live in Liverpool. BBC Manchester? No thanks!


I have no issue with BBC Manchester being a scouser myself. If it's made in Manchester, then it's BBC Manchester.

As Noggin said, productions are more city-named whereas the news programmes and local programmes are more regionally-named.


I realised he was talking about productions instead of regional news after I posted that.


Fair enough Smile
VM
VMPhil
chris posted:
chris posted:
Tell that to people like me who live in Liverpool. BBC Manchester? No thanks!


I have no issue with BBC Manchester being a scouser myself. If it's made in Manchester, then it's BBC Manchester.

As Noggin said, productions are more city-named whereas the news programmes and local programmes are more regionally-named.


I realised he was talking about productions instead of regional news after I posted that.


Fair enough Smile


It's my fault; I should have read his post properly. Smile
DJ
DJ Dave
I take it the Breakfast updates will come from Salford as Kate Simms has put on twitter she is doing the last North West Tonight update at 10.15pm tonight from Oxford Road.

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