NW
For some reason on P600 theres still the classic Granada Text, with the G's all over the place, with some pages not being updated for years on end, such as the CiTV page or the page which says you can find out more at www.gmg.co.uk, that being an out of date website.
Plus when you put ITV on Analogue I think you still get the box which has 'Granada Television' on it. When I went to London last year I am certain it was still 'Carlton' and 'LWT' and there was also Carlton Plus and LWT Plus on 600. Nice to see some form of regionality left.
Plus when you put ITV on Analogue I think you still get the box which has 'Granada Television' on it. When I went to London last year I am certain it was still 'Carlton' and 'LWT' and there was also Carlton Plus and LWT Plus on 600. Nice to see some form of regionality left.
CW
I know, 'Westcountry Text' as it was once called. Although the provision for each station to have a service in the 600's existed from 1993 (before that, Oracle provided a regional section, but afaik the local station had no control over it)
Well I know that Carlton had a much bigger interest in transferring their name to Central than they did to Westcountry; that Central would eventually be renamed to Carlton was probably decided back in the mid 90's (remember that Central got re-edited versions of Carlton's idents whilst Westcountry was allowed to continue unchanged), whilst Westcountry was only incorporated into the great rebranding plan at a late stage (there are unaired Westcountry variants of the ITV hearts idents, but there are no Central ones).
It is of course true that Central is what put Carlton on the map (before they bought Central, Carlton didn't own any major network production studios - it was only the aquisition of Central which allowed 'A Carlton Production' to appear onscreen), so maybe they now have a continued reluctance to let Central reappear.
Central purists should have course remember that Central itself was only a product of a rebrand; whilst ATV Network were forced into a major restructuring in order to get the licence from 1982, they did want to hold onto the name (they intended to be called 'ATV Midlands'); it was only IBA intervention which forced a change of name into what eventually became Central. So is it really so bad for Central to have been rebranded as Carlton when Central itself was only a rebranded ATV?
cwathen
Founding member
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A little geeky fact for you... It was Westcountry who launched the first 600+ service. /geekfactover
I know, 'Westcountry Text' as it was once called. Although the provision for each station to have a service in the 600's existed from 1993 (before that, Oracle provided a regional section, but afaik the local station had no control over it)
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looks to me like carlton middle management must still have some kind of hand in the running of central - owing to the reluctance to mention "central" or "itv central" wherever possible.
Well I know that Carlton had a much bigger interest in transferring their name to Central than they did to Westcountry; that Central would eventually be renamed to Carlton was probably decided back in the mid 90's (remember that Central got re-edited versions of Carlton's idents whilst Westcountry was allowed to continue unchanged), whilst Westcountry was only incorporated into the great rebranding plan at a late stage (there are unaired Westcountry variants of the ITV hearts idents, but there are no Central ones).
It is of course true that Central is what put Carlton on the map (before they bought Central, Carlton didn't own any major network production studios - it was only the aquisition of Central which allowed 'A Carlton Production' to appear onscreen), so maybe they now have a continued reluctance to let Central reappear.
Central purists should have course remember that Central itself was only a product of a rebrand; whilst ATV Network were forced into a major restructuring in order to get the licence from 1982, they did want to hold onto the name (they intended to be called 'ATV Midlands'); it was only IBA intervention which forced a change of name into what eventually became Central. So is it really so bad for Central to have been rebranded as Carlton when Central itself was only a rebranded ATV?
RU
I know, 'Westcountry Text' as it was once called. Although the provision for each station to have a service in the 600's existed from 1993 (before that, Oracle provided a regional section, but afaik the local station had no control over it)
Although the 600 service should not be confused with the regional service offered by ORACLE. The 600+ service, together with 4-Tel and the 500 service on Channel 5 was/is an ancillary service offering programme support information only as part of a clause in the 1990 Broadcasting Act.
These services had nothing to do with 1993 winner, Teletext UK. The ancillary service could not offer anything exciting like the main teletext holder so gone were the days of 4-T the dog. Anyway, I thought the regional company had something to do with the regional ORACLE service. Besides I remember they only started at 9.30 each day.
I remember seeing a test page for the 600+ service on ORACLE situated on P194. Funny how I can remember these page numbers of yesterday but I can easily fail an exam!
russnet
Founding member
cwathen posted:
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A little geeky fact for you... It was Westcountry who launched the first 600+ service. /geekfactover
I know, 'Westcountry Text' as it was once called. Although the provision for each station to have a service in the 600's existed from 1993 (before that, Oracle provided a regional section, but afaik the local station had no control over it)
Although the 600 service should not be confused with the regional service offered by ORACLE. The 600+ service, together with 4-Tel and the 500 service on Channel 5 was/is an ancillary service offering programme support information only as part of a clause in the 1990 Broadcasting Act.
These services had nothing to do with 1993 winner, Teletext UK. The ancillary service could not offer anything exciting like the main teletext holder so gone were the days of 4-T the dog. Anyway, I thought the regional company had something to do with the regional ORACLE service. Besides I remember they only started at 9.30 each day.
I remember seeing a test page for the 600+ service on ORACLE situated on P194. Funny how I can remember these page numbers of yesterday but I can easily fail an exam!