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PE
Pete Founding member
I think the forum would become crowded if we made a new thread for every development. The current discussion in ITV Programming Thread is about something the continuity announcer said. This generated about 7 or 8 posts, so surely it is better to just discuss this in a general thread instead of making a new thread for only 7 posts.


give its starting from scratch i'd say its better to be willing to just start a thread and leave it to the moderators to decide?
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
I think the forum would become crowded if we made a new thread for every development. The current discussion in ITV Programming Thread is about something the continuity announcer said. This generated about 7 or 8 posts, so surely it is better to just discuss this in a general thread instead of making a new thread for only 7 posts.


Did you not read what I wrote about merging threads?
LL
London Lite Founding member
Maybe one solution could be that for example there's finally a new look to BBC One finally replacing Oneness that the thread is allowed to carry on naturally, but once it dries up with posts, then it's locked as now to be used for reference, so we're not discussing it on the same thread two years down the line.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Like others have said, there is a fine line with megathreads.

On one hand significant news can get buried, on the other hand, sometimes starting a new thread for the most minor development can seem ridiculous. I know I’ve thought to myself ‘am I really starting a thread about this’ and therefore haven’t bothered.

I certainly wouldn’t set up threads as place holders where there is nothing at that time to talk about, that’s usually done by people who want the kudos of being the thread starter.

Are the threads that are technically non pres related still allowed - tends to be the biggest shows on TV or for live shows on TV - current ones include Saturday Night Takeaway, Gordon Ramsey’s Bank Balance etc
DV
DVB Cornwall
I like megathreads, they provide a history which if search is indexed correctly can be referred to quickly. There's no negatives to them at all and if there's something of import the material can be cross posted, across to a specific discussion. A thread lasting several years isn't an issue for me.

An individual channel thread or topic can be used to hang all conversation together. Banning them is petty in my view.
RO
rob Founding member
Are the threads that are technically non pres related still allowed - tends to be the biggest shows on TV or for live shows on TV - current ones include Saturday Night Takeaway, Gordon Ramsey’s Bank Balance etc


Yes, they're still allowed.

I've listened to what you have all said, and again I thank you for your comments, and I have decided that we should simply "go with the flow" - megathreads are going to be allowed.
UK
UKnews

I certainly wouldn’t set up threads as place holders where there is nothing at that time to talk about, that’s usually done by people who want the kudos of being the thread starter.

Yes - please have a similar moderation policy on this as has existed here.

On mega threads - when there is a significant development if there is encouragement / moderator support to break that out into it’s on thread then I feel that works well.

The Sport Thread is a good example - a lot of subjects come and go over time, mix in with other things, having each indisputably would clutter up the forum. When there is a big event / development it gets broken out into its own thread. It’s also easier to ignore for those who aren’t interested!

Thanks for all your work on this already rob.
DE88, itvblocks and Alfie Mulcahy gave kudos
IT
itsrobert Founding member
My view is that it is not necessarily the existence of generic megathreads that is the problem; rather, it is the unwillingness of posters to go out on a limb and create a new topic for something that is more noteworthy. And also the blame should go on those members who seem incapable of resisting moaning that "this should have gone in X thread".

Take BBC News, for instance. A generic thread should only be used to catch the day-to-day minutiae of the channel's presentation that only serious fans would be interested in. If, however, a programme gets a relaunch, uses a significant new presentation device, or there's a breakdown or something that would have wider appeal, then it should have its own thread.

If posters don't feel compelled to do that, then notable news gets buried and the momentum of progress can end up cutting down the discussion because the topic of the day has changed. Of course, moderation can and should be used to help the process along by splitting and merging threads, as has been suggested already.
RO
rob Founding member
There are now 300 members pre-registered!

Work has been continuing throughout the day to get things ready for launch, and the next big task is to work on the Gallery.

A reminder that you have until 12pm tomorrow to pre-register if you haven't already.
DK
DanielK
One suggestion...the TVLF Gallery needs to have a meaningful comment to allow a rating, doesn't need to be leaning positive or negative, or even constructive, just clear that the rater has viewed the mock.

Pretty annoying watching the YouTube Bandicam crew 5 starring each others mocks in a "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" manner. It sends the good quality mocks far down the results page or onto the next, and also lock the topic after X amount of time so the same folks can't dredge up a 4 year old mock for a 4 word comment.

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and also lock the topic after X amount of time so the same folks can't dredge up a 4 year old mock for a 4 word comment.


Same can be done for old requests, if someone really wants something that was on a dead link, they can contact the OP or one of the people who indicate that they've downloaded it. No need to drag an old thread up.
DW
DavidWhitfield
One suggestion...the TVLF Gallery needs to have a meaningful comment


Couldn't agree more; it always irks me when you see comments like "terrible" or " cool" in response to a new design because that sort of response seems utterly pointless to me as it offers nothing worth reading to any party. The whole point of The Gallery is for the 'mocker' to share their work, and for the wider community to offer constructive criticism and feedback. 'Nice' and 'rubbish' just doesn't cut the mustard.

Not just in The Gallery , but on the forum as a whole, if the most in-depth thing you've got to say about something is "nice" or "ok", then you really needn't bother posting at all.

Worth noting, though - for those who missed the live stream on Saturday - we learnt that there are plans to enforce a minimum character limit on new posts on the site as a whole which I think is a great idea to stop this kind of pointless one-word comments which add nothing of interest or use.
RO
rob Founding member
One suggestion...the TVLF Gallery needs to have a meaningful comment to allow a rating, doesn't need to be leaning positive or negative, or even constructive, just clear that the rater has viewed the mock.


Not sure how I'll be able to set that up, but on the new site I have set it so that all posts must consist of a minimum of 25 characters to encourage better conversation.

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