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ITV abandons the South Bank

(February 2017)

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IS
Inspector Sands
Don't think it's been mentioned that Adam Hills said last week's Last Leg was 'the last one from the South Bank'.

Wonder where they're going. Their original home of Riverside isn't finished yet. Their set at TLS included a fake brick wall to replicate the one at Riverside, which I believe is being replicated for real at the new Riverside
BA
bilky asko
noggin posted:
Run_Telecine posted:
Speaking of TLS pictures, you can see just how red they make the skintones look on this DVE inset box on Takeaway. Screenshot (can't post an inline image for some reason, so a Dropbox link:). https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukcu6yq6viyf6po/Screen.png?dl=0 Probably a matter of taste, as it's the 'look' the LD will want, but it hurts my eyes. Ditto 'The Last Leg' pics.


The full-frame picture is horribly cold and flat though... LE pictures should always be warm and inviting, not cold and clinical IMHO.


QVC - Quality, Value, and Horribly Cold and Flat.
HC
Hatton Cross
elmarko posted:
Is that why on WILTY David Mitchell looks pinky red? I hate it.

No. WILTY is recorded at Pinewood, not TLS.
BL
bluecortina
noggin posted:
Run_Telecine posted:
Speaking of TLS pictures, you can see just how red they make the skintones look on this DVE inset box on Takeaway. Screenshot (can't post an inline image for some reason, so a Dropbox link:). https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukcu6yq6viyf6po/Screen.png?dl=0 Probably a matter of taste, as it's the 'look' the LD will want, but it hurts my eyes. Ditto 'The Last Leg' pics.


The full-frame picture is horribly cold and flat though... LE pictures should always be warm and inviting, not cold and clinical IMHO.


Yes, I agree.

I believe the sequence was likely to have been recorded in a dressing room, so it wouldn't be beyond imagination to speculate the lighting was simple fluorescents in the room? After all, the suspect might have gotten a teeny weeny little bit suspicious if she was sat in a room with full telly lighting for no good reason.
BA
bilky asko
bluecortina posted:
noggin posted:
Run_Telecine posted:
Speaking of TLS pictures, you can see just how red they make the skintones look on this DVE inset box on Takeaway. Screenshot (can't post an inline image for some reason, so a Dropbox link:). https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukcu6yq6viyf6po/Screen.png?dl=0 Probably a matter of taste, as it's the 'look' the LD will want, but it hurts my eyes. Ditto 'The Last Leg' pics.


The full-frame picture is horribly cold and flat though... LE pictures should always be warm and inviting, not cold and clinical IMHO.


Yes, I agree.

I believe the sequence was likely to have been recorded in a dressing room, so it wouldn't be beyond imagination to speculate the lighting was simple fluorescents in the room? After all, the suspect might have gotten a teeny weeny little bit suspicious if she was sat in a room with full telly lighting for no good reason.


It was on set at QVC. I think that shot was from a QVC camera, and not from one of the "hidden" ones.
NG
noggin Founding member
bluecortina posted:
noggin posted:
Run_Telecine posted:
Speaking of TLS pictures, you can see just how red they make the skintones look on this DVE inset box on Takeaway. Screenshot (can't post an inline image for some reason, so a Dropbox link:). https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukcu6yq6viyf6po/Screen.png?dl=0 Probably a matter of taste, as it's the 'look' the LD will want, but it hurts my eyes. Ditto 'The Last Leg' pics.


The full-frame picture is horribly cold and flat though... LE pictures should always be warm and inviting, not cold and clinical IMHO.


Yes, I agree.

I believe the sequence was likely to have been recorded in a dressing room, so it wouldn't be beyond imagination to speculate the lighting was simple fluorescents in the room? After all, the suspect might have gotten a teeny weeny little bit suspicious if she was sat in a room with full telly lighting for no good reason.


Oh - I'm not dissing the picture in context, just don't agree that the DVE-ed inset pictures are terrible. They are a warm and inviting 'LE' style of picture. Sure they're quite saturated and possibly a little 'warm' - but that's not a bad thing on an LE show.
BL
bluecortina
noggin posted:
bluecortina posted:
noggin posted:

The full-frame picture is horribly cold and flat though... LE pictures should always be warm and inviting, not cold and clinical IMHO.


Yes, I agree.

I believe the sequence was likely to have been recorded in a dressing room, so it wouldn't be beyond imagination to speculate the lighting was simple fluorescents in the room? After all, the suspect might have gotten a teeny weeny little bit suspicious if she was sat in a room with full telly lighting for no good reason.


Oh - I'm not dissing the picture in context, just don't agree that the DVE-ed inset pictures are terrible. They are a warm and inviting 'LE' style of picture. Sure they're quite saturated and possibly a little 'warm' - but that's not a bad thing on an LE show.


Don't worry Noggin, I knew what you meant and I agree with you.

When we were recording SD and HD programmes in the studios we ensured the SD pictures from the HD cameras matched the previous generation of SD only cameras for continuity and so if productions moved studios during the record run it would all look the same. But when we operated in HD mode I think we just used the Sony default (possibly the industry default) with no other colourimetry tweeking.

I suspect that's how the industry works now, so pretty much any LE show from any of the major studios look very similar if not identical. Any thoughts?
NG
noggin Founding member
bluecortina posted:

I suspect that's how the industry works now, so pretty much any LE show from any of the major studios look very similar if not identical. Any thoughts?


I know some LDs have their own personal settings that they like VSs to use as a default - some will ask for a little bit of red push, an increase in saturation, a little bit of black crush etc. Don't think many play that much with the matrices though.
JK
JKDerry
Inspector Sands posted:
Don't think it's been mentioned that Adam Hills said last week's Last Leg was 'the last one from the South Bank'.

Wonder where they're going. Their original home of Riverside isn't finished yet. Their set at TLS included a fake brick wall to replicate the one at Riverside, which I believe is being replicated for real at the new Riverside

The Last Leg is booked into the London Studios until Friday 23rd March 2018. That edition will most likely be the final one made in the London Studios.
AG
AxG
Are they not off to Pyeongchang for the Paralympics?
IS
Inspector Sands
JKDerry posted:

The Last Leg is booked into the London Studios until Friday 23rd March 2018. That edition will most likely be the final one made in the London Studios.

Hmmmm, oddly I just watched the beginning of this week's on all 4 and can't find him saying that after all.
NG
noggin Founding member
AxG posted:
Are they not off to Pyeongchang for the Paralympics?


Could be that they are using a TLS gallery, but presenting on-site in Korea if that is the case.

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