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Maybe I'm just too retro but one of the attractions of idents to me is to see the quality and production that has gone into them.
Shaky camerawork, some heavy breathing and graffiti of all subjects, to me, do not make for good programme introductions. If these are going to litter the junctions, why bother making quality ones? Just let anyone with a camera and a cut out 2 make an ident.
Asa
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BBC Scotland posted:
I don't understand... why was it so bad? It adds character to the lineup...
Maybe I'm just too retro but one of the attractions of idents to me is to see the quality and production that has gone into them.
Shaky camerawork, some heavy breathing and graffiti of all subjects, to me, do not make for good programme introductions. If these are going to litter the junctions, why bother making quality ones? Just let anyone with a camera and a cut out 2 make an ident.
PC
Managed to catch this when it aired...And I like it for its character and 'loud' style. Especially as I feel this set could do with a few more 'cheekier' idents like that (most of the originals are quite serious save for perhaps Cappuccino, which incidentally is another instance of a template being used).
DE
I's just, well you know, very amaturish (SP) compared to the rest of the set & just lloks odd, why pink!?!?
Exactly, no thought or good production values on that one; it seemed very shoddily put together.
I think that was idea really. They are probably meant to be filmed by someone tagging a 2 shape on to things or people s/he shouldn't be, by spraying them with paint... with a risk of getting caught... hence the urgent/jerky camera work.
cylon6 posted:
Johnny83 posted:
I's just, well you know, very amaturish (SP) compared to the rest of the set & just lloks odd, why pink!?!?
Exactly, no thought or good production values on that one; it seemed very shoddily put together.
I think that was idea really. They are probably meant to be filmed by someone tagging a 2 shape on to things or people s/he shouldn't be, by spraying them with paint... with a risk of getting caught... hence the urgent/jerky camera work.
JO
Maybe I'm just too retro but one of the attractions of idents to me is to see the quality and production that has gone into them.
Shaky camerawork, some heavy breathing and graffiti of all subjects, to me, do not make for good programme introductions. If these are going to litter the junctions, why bother making quality ones? Just let anyone with a camera and a cut out 2 make an ident.
Totally agree Asa. Plus theres plenty of Youtuber's with cut-out 2's who made a better job than that shambles.
I'd expected better from BBC2, with their excellent pres history something as awful as this really does tarnish their reputation.
Asa posted:
BBC Scotland posted:
I don't understand... why was it so bad? It adds character to the lineup...
Maybe I'm just too retro but one of the attractions of idents to me is to see the quality and production that has gone into them.
Shaky camerawork, some heavy breathing and graffiti of all subjects, to me, do not make for good programme introductions. If these are going to litter the junctions, why bother making quality ones? Just let anyone with a camera and a cut out 2 make an ident.
Totally agree Asa. Plus theres plenty of Youtuber's with cut-out 2's who made a better job than that shambles.
I'd expected better from BBC2, with their excellent pres history something as awful as this really does tarnish their reputation.
TV
And to think they paid Abbot Mead Vickers £700,000 of licence payers' money for this concept...
I must admit I haven't taken to this rebrand at all. More extravagant than anything that's gone before, some real howlers like "Chase" and AMV even had the nerve to redraw the 2!
Whilst I'm here, that "Any Dream Will Do" promo also bears the hallmarks of being an expensive agency job. Wonder how much that one stung us, even without without Alan Humphries' dad from Grange Hill saying "dream on!"?
I must admit I haven't taken to this rebrand at all. More extravagant than anything that's gone before, some real howlers like "Chase" and AMV even had the nerve to redraw the 2!
Whilst I'm here, that "Any Dream Will Do" promo also bears the hallmarks of being an expensive agency job. Wonder how much that one stung us, even without without Alan Humphries' dad from Grange Hill saying "dream on!"?
BB
I agree completely... it just adds a different feel to the idents.
Paul Clark posted:
Managed to catch this when it aired...And I like it for its character and 'loud' style. Especially as I feel this set could do with a few more 'cheekier' idents like that (most of the originals are quite serious save for perhaps Cappuccino, which incidentally is another instance of a template being used).
I agree completely... it just adds a different feel to the idents.
PC
Actually I'm still interested to know whether this was planned for any while, or whether it's more of a recent addition.
Because, it's very different to the rest, not very swish - but I'm glad it's been added as I'd prefer it to be included rather than not used at all. Really the set is crying out for sequences that come across as a bit more mischievous, since 'personality' 2's are pretty much dead in this era.
Because, it's very different to the rest, not very swish - but I'm glad it's been added as I'd prefer it to be included rather than not used at all. Really the set is crying out for sequences that come across as a bit more mischievous, since 'personality' 2's are pretty much dead in this era.
BB
Maybe I'm just too retro but one of the attractions of idents to me is to see the quality and production that has gone into them.
Shaky camerawork, some heavy breathing and graffiti of all subjects, to me, do not make for good programme introductions. If these are going to litter the junctions, why bother making quality ones? Just let anyone with a camera and a cut out 2 make an ident.
Totally agree Asa. Plus theres plenty of Youtuber's with cut-out 2's who made a better job than that shambles.
I'd expected better from BBC2, with their excellent pres history something as awful as this really does tarnish their reputation.
It will probably only be used into football or sports programmes... I thought it was a good thing for the BBC to move with the times. They are so often blamed of being old fashioned... they try to do something a bit more modern and then get criticised for doing that!
Nice move BBC TWO - if anybody there is watching this thread please tell us if there are more to come...
plucky duck92 posted:
Asa posted:
BBC Scotland posted:
I don't understand... why was it so bad? It adds character to the lineup...
Maybe I'm just too retro but one of the attractions of idents to me is to see the quality and production that has gone into them.
Shaky camerawork, some heavy breathing and graffiti of all subjects, to me, do not make for good programme introductions. If these are going to litter the junctions, why bother making quality ones? Just let anyone with a camera and a cut out 2 make an ident.
Totally agree Asa. Plus theres plenty of Youtuber's with cut-out 2's who made a better job than that shambles.
I'd expected better from BBC2, with their excellent pres history something as awful as this really does tarnish their reputation.
It will probably only be used into football or sports programmes... I thought it was a good thing for the BBC to move with the times. They are so often blamed of being old fashioned... they try to do something a bit more modern and then get criticised for doing that!
Nice move BBC TWO - if anybody there is watching this thread please tell us if there are more to come...
JO
Maybe I'm just too retro but one of the attractions of idents to me is to see the quality and production that has gone into them.
Shaky camerawork, some heavy breathing and graffiti of all subjects, to me, do not make for good programme introductions. If these are going to litter the junctions, why bother making quality ones? Just let anyone with a camera and a cut out 2 make an ident.
Totally agree Asa. Plus theres plenty of Youtuber's with cut-out 2's who made a better job than that shambles.
I'd expected better from BBC2, with their excellent pres history something as awful as this really does tarnish their reputation.
It will probably only be used into football or sports programmes... I thought it was a good thing for the BBC to move with the times. They are so often blamed of being old fashioned... they try to do something a bit more modern and then get criticised for doing that!
Nice move BBC TWO - if anybody there is watching this thread please tell us if there a more to come...
It's not so much that it's just an idea badly executed.
Why the template all the time why not more objects with the 2
I can see this one been quietly dropped after a few uses, Crystal Ball anyone
BBC Scotland posted:
plucky duck92 posted:
Asa posted:
BBC Scotland posted:
I don't understand... why was it so bad? It adds character to the lineup...
Maybe I'm just too retro but one of the attractions of idents to me is to see the quality and production that has gone into them.
Shaky camerawork, some heavy breathing and graffiti of all subjects, to me, do not make for good programme introductions. If these are going to litter the junctions, why bother making quality ones? Just let anyone with a camera and a cut out 2 make an ident.
Totally agree Asa. Plus theres plenty of Youtuber's with cut-out 2's who made a better job than that shambles.
I'd expected better from BBC2, with their excellent pres history something as awful as this really does tarnish their reputation.
It will probably only be used into football or sports programmes... I thought it was a good thing for the BBC to move with the times. They are so often blamed of being old fashioned... they try to do something a bit more modern and then get criticised for doing that!
Nice move BBC TWO - if anybody there is watching this thread please tell us if there a more to come...
It's not so much that it's just an idea badly executed.
Why the template all the time why not more objects with the 2
I can see this one been quietly dropped after a few uses, Crystal Ball anyone
BB
What are they and how many of them are there... how do you know about them?
So deton can you explain more?
BBC Scotland posted:
denton posted:
It was one of the 'Tagging' idents.
What are they and how many of them are there... how do you know about them?
So deton can you explain more?
PC
Will be interesting to see the other Tagging idents when they appear. If "Def II" was still running these would most likely be used to introduce it, methinks.