Seems like a cumbersome way of doing things - were there no GPO/BT 'lines' out to the regions, like those which held the ITV network together? That aside, surely having an operative (or team of operatives?) at each region record an overnight transmission would be far more expensive than just having somebody in London create a number of transfers and have them sent special delivery?
Seems like a cumbersome way of doing things - were there no GPO/BT 'lines' out to the regions, like those which held the ITV network together? That aside, surely having an operative (or team of operatives?) at each region record an overnight transmission would be far more expensive than just having somebody in London create a number of transfers and have them sent special delivery?
Not sure. I don't remember who originally posted this information. Maybe someone at each region just left a tape recording when they left for the night.
The BBC logo was generated live over each of the idents, I don't think they were 'burned in' until the 1997 scheme came in. Until then, there were occasions when the slanted BBC logo didn't appear, notably the ident's first TX in 1991. Also, you can see in the videos which Lambie-Nairn have put up (example) the BBC logo isn't authentic.
That doesn't explain why the captures appear in their full length, but it does explain why such copies were readily available. I guess it's within the realms of possibility that they were scheduled and played out as part of an engineering test on account of being readily available - possibly around the time BBC Select encryption was tested?
This happened in NI on a couple of occasions after the slanted logo was dropped.
How odd - you'd have thought the logo generator would just have been disconnected after it became surplus to requirements; but then we know NI don't always dispose of kit Network tell them not to use (GNAT, for example)!
The BBC logo was generated live over each of the idents, I don't think they were 'burned in' until the 1997 scheme came in.
The regions pre-1997 had burned in versions, with the only possible exception being South East (?)
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Also, you can see in the videos which Lambie-Nairn have put up (example) the BBC logo isn't authentic.
Compared to the monstrosity of an imitation logo that BBC-branded blank cassettes were adorned with, that looks fine to me, or at least as darn close as - there's no difference in the form of the lettering that the re-created logos exhibit.
I haven't searched rigorously, but I've not seen actual TX evidence that the regions had these additional idents (from #6 onward) following the overnight playout. But that's not to say some didn't indeed make copies via these broadcasts and then simply choose not to use them - or even, miss / ignore the broadcast entirely.
I don't really remember many North West BBC Two idents. The only one that sticks in my mind was on Sunday mornings. I think it might have been North Westminster. Certainly, in the post-1997, this same junction used Water every weekend with, I think, Martin Henfield doing the voiceover. There's a good chance it was the same recording used week in, week out.
The BBC logo was generated live over each of the idents, I don't think they were 'burned in' until the 1997 scheme came in.
The regions pre-1997 had burned in versions, with the only possible exception being South East (?)
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Also, you can see in the videos which Lambie-Nairn have put up (example) the BBC logo isn't authentic.
Compared to the monstrosity of an imitation logo that BBC-branded blank cassettes were adorned with, that looks fine to me, or at least as darn close as - there's no difference in the form of the lettering that the re-created logos exhibit.
I haven't searched rigorously, but I've not seen actual TX evidence that the regions had these additional idents (from #6 onward) following the overnight playout. But that's not to say some didn't indeed make copies via these broadcasts and then simply choose not to use them - or even, miss / ignore the broadcast entirely.
Ahhah - so in order for the 'played out for the benefit of the regions' thing to be true, the regions would have had to have burned in their own logo? That in addition to the other things makes it implausible, to me at least.
Why did South East possibly have a logo generator rather than a burned in version? I assume the Nations had the proper kit?
I think the thing that strikes me as inauthentic about the Lambie-Nairn YouTube logo is the sharpness.
I don't really remember many North West BBC Two idents. The only one that sticks in my mind was on Sunday mornings. I think it might have been North Westminster. Certainly, in the post-1997, this same junction used Water every weekend with, I think, Martin Henfield doing the voiceover. There's a good chance it was the same recording used week in, week out.
That was the last regular BBC2 regional slot that I can recall. Some regions had a pool of about 3 from I can deduce, always played with the same announcement - http://www2.tv-ark.org.uk/bbc_southwest/continuity.html (scroll to the bottom). I'm pretty sure most regional CAs are pre-recorded - East Midlands used the same "Now on One, the BBC News at Six with..." for years (possibly they still do).
The old South East region didn't have it's own playout facilities as such - all programmes for the South East were sent to Network Control (NC1 or 2) on an outside source from Elstree and Network preceeded them by a South East version of the symbol. The duty announcer would introduce it. The clock and symbol generators in NC1 and 2 could generate network branded or South East branded clock and/or symbols as required. The symbols themselves were played off Laserdisc, and the logo keyed over (clocks were generated by the GNAT).
Most other English regions had a piece of kit called 'VERA' which did much the same thing, though I don't think they used LaserDisc machines to provide the symbols. I can't remember if the BBC One West/South etc logo was burned into the backgrounds or added by VERA - it's possible some centres had the ability to change to a non regionally-branded symbol so that multi-region opt outs could occur (BBC South didn't have it's own Sunday political ptrogramme for many years for example, it was made by Bristol).
What about this...
What regions did this cover? The old South East, South and East?
That would be from the days when England was divided into five large regions (South & East, South & West, Midlands, North East and North West). Subsequently, the North East and North West were merged, and then by the early 90s they were re-organised again into just three regions (South, Midlands & East and North).
South & East comprised the East and South East regions (in terms of local radio, the latter included Berkshire and Sussex). South & West included the South, West and South West. These large regions were how the local radio regional evening shows were divided up in the early 90s, though I don't think they featured all that much on television - maybe the Sunday political programmes to begin with.
Anyone know why the scheduled episode of The One Show wasn't on BBC Two this afternoon? It was meant to be the episode from Friday (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r09lx) but was a repeat of The One Show - Best of British from last year (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kdvvr). The episode of The One Show from Friday is still on BBC iPlayer, so there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the episode itself.
Anyone know why the scheduled episode of The One Show wasn't on BBC Two this afternoon? It was meant to be the episode from Friday (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r09lx) but was a repeat of The One Show - Best of British from last year (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kdvvr). The episode of The One Show from Friday is still on BBC iPlayer, so there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the episode itself.
Can't really say much, except that the One Show narrative repeats have been dropped entirely.
