BB
They generally always have been on weekdays, pre-recorded at the weekend. For the last week on Sky the updates were all pre-recorded I think as they wound down the service.
i've been told they've definitely been recorded on weekdays all the time Polly has done them. They were only Iive up until Asha Tanna stopped doing them in 2009.
The Polly updates seem to be live now too.
They generally always have been on weekdays, pre-recorded at the weekend. For the last week on Sky the updates were all pre-recorded I think as they wound down the service.
i've been told they've definitely been recorded on weekdays all the time Polly has done them. They were only Iive up until Asha Tanna stopped doing them in 2009.
NW
To my memory you had the full bulletins between 6.00-7.30am and 8.30-9.00pm, and the updates were 8.00, 9.00, 10.00, 11.00, 12.00pm, 1.00 (a full 5 minute summary), 2.00, 3.00, 5.20, 6.00, 7.00, 8.00, 11.00 and 12.10am. As said even on weekends they had something similar to this too, not bad for a channel on a shoestring budget.
I presume they're done during movies in the same way that ITV adds the FYI bulletins to be able to increase advertisements.
How many updates did channel 5 show when the channel launched? I think they had updates from 5 news early through the day, but how late did they air?
How many updates did channel 5 show when the channel launched? I think they had updates from 5 news early through the day, but how late did they air?
To my memory you had the full bulletins between 6.00-7.30am and 8.30-9.00pm, and the updates were 8.00, 9.00, 10.00, 11.00, 12.00pm, 1.00 (a full 5 minute summary), 2.00, 3.00, 5.20, 6.00, 7.00, 8.00, 11.00 and 12.10am. As said even on weekends they had something similar to this too, not bad for a channel on a shoestring budget.
BR
IMO the news updates were also a useful tool for hooking people into the channel. There timing means they air when people are channel flicking - and IMO people finding a news update (which they know to be short) are more likely to stick around and see what is next on the channel than if they flick through and find ads.
EX
Yes. Films are often shown in two parts in the Barb ratings as the news means the film can be split into two separate programmes
If there are no films then the 2058 update will be the last
I presume they're done during movies in the same way that ITV adds the FYI bulletins to be able to increase advertisements.
Yes. Films are often shown in two parts in the Barb ratings as the news means the film can be split into two separate programmes
If there are no films then the 2058 update will be the last
LR
Great interview with Nigel Farage on the extradition of Christopher Tappin on the 6.30. Never would have happened in the Sky era.
IT
You're right, Brekkie. After doing some digging, I've found mention of John Suchet rehearsing for the launch of the Early Evening News in Studio 3 on this page: http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1992/02/14/U14029202/?s=suchet. I would therefore like to suggest that upon the opening of Gray's Inn Road in 1990, there existed 3 studios - Studios 1 and 2 in the basement and Studio 3 on the atrium. Judging from clips of the EEN between 1992 and 1995 (and my own knowledge of ITN HQ), Studio 3 was much higher up than the ground floor position currently occupied by Studio 4. I'd hazard a guess that Studio 4 was built in 1992 when News at Ten relaunched. From then until 1995, Studio 1 and/or 2 must have housed the Lunchtime News, Channel 4 News and possibly some CSO things like ITN World News? Studio 3 was clearly Early Evening News and Weekend News and Studio 4 was News at Ten.
Come 1995, when ITV wanted the Lunchtime and Early Evening News to share the same look, News at Ten was moved into the basement to share with Channel 4 News and the Lunchtime and Early Evening bulletins both moved into Studio 4, with Studio 3 being done away with. Studio 5 was added for 5 News in 1997 and finally Studio 6 for Channel 4 News in 1999.
Some of that is guesswork on my part, but it would seem like the most plausible and logical explanation as to why no Studio 3 now exists.
itsrobert
Founding member
Where were the old 1990s News at Ten and C4 News sets. I'm sure they used to share a studio, with C4 News moving to a new studio in Jan 1999 and then ITV News moving to the basement (studio 1) in March. I assume the old ITN set from 1995-1999 was in Studio 4 (later the ITN News Channel, now London Tonight). Could the old in-newsroom sets of the early nineties (used for the Early Evening News) have been Studio 3?
You're right, Brekkie. After doing some digging, I've found mention of John Suchet rehearsing for the launch of the Early Evening News in Studio 3 on this page: http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1992/02/14/U14029202/?s=suchet. I would therefore like to suggest that upon the opening of Gray's Inn Road in 1990, there existed 3 studios - Studios 1 and 2 in the basement and Studio 3 on the atrium. Judging from clips of the EEN between 1992 and 1995 (and my own knowledge of ITN HQ), Studio 3 was much higher up than the ground floor position currently occupied by Studio 4. I'd hazard a guess that Studio 4 was built in 1992 when News at Ten relaunched. From then until 1995, Studio 1 and/or 2 must have housed the Lunchtime News, Channel 4 News and possibly some CSO things like ITN World News? Studio 3 was clearly Early Evening News and Weekend News and Studio 4 was News at Ten.
Come 1995, when ITV wanted the Lunchtime and Early Evening News to share the same look, News at Ten was moved into the basement to share with Channel 4 News and the Lunchtime and Early Evening bulletins both moved into Studio 4, with Studio 3 being done away with. Studio 5 was added for 5 News in 1997 and finally Studio 6 for Channel 4 News in 1999.
Some of that is guesswork on my part, but it would seem like the most plausible and logical explanation as to why no Studio 3 now exists.
IT
That would appear to be so, Brekkie. When all the ITV bulletins moved into Studio 1 in 1999, Studio 4 was then semi-vacated. As I recall, the overnight summaries and Morning News still came from 4 until mid-2000 when they had to vacate for the ITN News Channel. I still don't fully understand why the overnight stuff persisted from Studio 4 for so long after the 1999 revamp. The only thing I can think of is that Studio 4 is right next door to the ITV newsroom - maybe they wanted to keep things simple instead of continually going up and down to the basement?
itsrobert
Founding member
It all fits into place now. I guess considering the timings that the nineties C4 News set, vacated for Studio 6 in January 1999, probably became the ITV News set in March.
That would appear to be so, Brekkie. When all the ITV bulletins moved into Studio 1 in 1999, Studio 4 was then semi-vacated. As I recall, the overnight summaries and Morning News still came from 4 until mid-2000 when they had to vacate for the ITN News Channel. I still don't fully understand why the overnight stuff persisted from Studio 4 for so long after the 1999 revamp. The only thing I can think of is that Studio 4 is right next door to the ITV newsroom - maybe they wanted to keep things simple instead of continually going up and down to the basement?
CI
You're right, Brekkie. After doing some digging, I've found mention of John Suchet rehearsing for the launch of the Early Evening News in Studio 3 on this page: http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1992/02/14/U14029202/?s=suchet. I would therefore like to suggest that upon the opening of Gray's Inn Road in 1990, there existed 3 studios - Studios 1 and 2 in the basement and Studio 3 on the atrium. Judging from clips of the EEN between 1992 and 1995 (and my own knowledge of ITN HQ), Studio 3 was much higher up than the ground floor position currently occupied by Studio 4. I'd hazard a guess that Studio 4 was built in 1992 when News at Ten relaunched. From then until 1995, Studio 1 and/or 2 must have housed the Lunchtime News, Channel 4 News and possibly some CSO things like ITN World News? Studio 3 was clearly Early Evening News and Weekend News and Studio 4 was News at Ten.
Come 1995, when ITV wanted the Lunchtime and Early Evening News to share the same look, News at Ten was moved into the basement to share with Channel 4 News and the Lunchtime and Early Evening bulletins both moved into Studio 4, with Studio 3 being done away with. Studio 5 was added for 5 News in 1997 and finally Studio 6 for Channel 4 News in 1999.
Some of that is guesswork on my part, but it would seem like the most plausible and logical explanation as to why no Studio 3 now exists.
ITN World News was definitely in one of the basement studios until about 1996 if memory serves, when that too relocated to Studio 4. I did wonder what happened when the ITN News Channel launched in Studio 4, what happened to the ITN World News, which at that time was being aired on PBS stations until about 2002. Which studio did that go to?
I also recall that during the 1990's when NBC Super Channel was on air, you had the ITN World News at 5.30 am, presented by the very same presenter who was presenting the ITN Morning News on ITV at 5.30 am. Was the ITN World News pre-recorded at 4.45am or some other time in order to allow for the live ITN Morning News?
Where were the old 1990s News at Ten and C4 News sets. I'm sure they used to share a studio, with C4 News moving to a new studio in Jan 1999 and then ITV News moving to the basement (studio 1) in March. I assume the old ITN set from 1995-1999 was in Studio 4 (later the ITN News Channel, now London Tonight). Could the old in-newsroom sets of the early nineties (used for the Early Evening News) have been Studio 3?
You're right, Brekkie. After doing some digging, I've found mention of John Suchet rehearsing for the launch of the Early Evening News in Studio 3 on this page: http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1992/02/14/U14029202/?s=suchet. I would therefore like to suggest that upon the opening of Gray's Inn Road in 1990, there existed 3 studios - Studios 1 and 2 in the basement and Studio 3 on the atrium. Judging from clips of the EEN between 1992 and 1995 (and my own knowledge of ITN HQ), Studio 3 was much higher up than the ground floor position currently occupied by Studio 4. I'd hazard a guess that Studio 4 was built in 1992 when News at Ten relaunched. From then until 1995, Studio 1 and/or 2 must have housed the Lunchtime News, Channel 4 News and possibly some CSO things like ITN World News? Studio 3 was clearly Early Evening News and Weekend News and Studio 4 was News at Ten.
Come 1995, when ITV wanted the Lunchtime and Early Evening News to share the same look, News at Ten was moved into the basement to share with Channel 4 News and the Lunchtime and Early Evening bulletins both moved into Studio 4, with Studio 3 being done away with. Studio 5 was added for 5 News in 1997 and finally Studio 6 for Channel 4 News in 1999.
Some of that is guesswork on my part, but it would seem like the most plausible and logical explanation as to why no Studio 3 now exists.
ITN World News was definitely in one of the basement studios until about 1996 if memory serves, when that too relocated to Studio 4. I did wonder what happened when the ITN News Channel launched in Studio 4, what happened to the ITN World News, which at that time was being aired on PBS stations until about 2002. Which studio did that go to?
I also recall that during the 1990's when NBC Super Channel was on air, you had the ITN World News at 5.30 am, presented by the very same presenter who was presenting the ITN Morning News on ITV at 5.30 am. Was the ITN World News pre-recorded at 4.45am or some other time in order to allow for the live ITN Morning News?