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BBC Newsnight

(March 2010)

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DO
dosxuk
Shocked

Can someone get the BBC2 endboard designers to take over Newsnight's virtual graphics.
GH
George Hill
And speaking of Newsnight's graphics team getting bored:

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Now that looks good! Far better than last week!
MU
Muckspreader
And speaking of Newsnight's graphics team getting bored:

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Now that looks good! Far better than last week!


Gosh, that really is something.

I hope you guys on here realise quite how technically complex that would have been to design, and set up.
JO
Jon
Take us through the process...
SR
SomeRandomStuff
And speaking of Newsnight's graphics team getting bored:

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Now that looks good! Far better than last week!


Gosh, that really is something.

I hope you guys on here realise quite how technically complex that would have been to design, and set up.

Okay i'll have a go...

1. Photoshopped background with guest video keyed in.
Create background composite to size and resolution required for screens including cut out for guest video - Sourcing the images probably took longer than actually cutting them out and compositing the image.
Take image in correct file format across to graphics output software and key the guest in.

2. Photoshopped still images badly masked over a static wide shot.
Set up the camera position first, tape out position on floor if camera is needed for other shots during programme.
Using still image of the shot, composite image to overlay on final shot, again, sourcing the images probably took longer than the actual compositing.
File to graphics output software in gallery, key the image onto the live camera feed and Bob's your auntie.

Crappy Sistine Chapel effect complete.

Its hardly what i'd call technically complex. 30mins MAX for an experienced designer.

My question is... when they have a Virtual studio capable of putting people within any environment possible, why they chose to do this dreadful mess?
JW
JamesWorldNews
Isn't that Newsnight shot above actually taken in the same set as used for HardTalk?
SR
SomeRandomStuff
Isn't that Newsnight shot above actually taken in the same set as used for HardTalk?


No it's the same set as "Impact".
DO
dosxuk
I hope you guys on here realise quite how technically complex that would have been to design, and set up.


I think it's a clear example of 'just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should '. While it is technically impressive it's also an aesthetic disaster.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Isn't that Newsnight shot above actually taken in the same set as used for HardTalk?


No it's the same set as "Impact".


I know it "looks" like the same set as Impact and Focus on Africa and Global with Soapy, but in the image specifically above, the whole thing looks virtual to me. Even the "fixed" fixtures of the set outwith the newswall also look as though they've been virtualized.

I do concede that I'm basing my comment only on the image above, having not actually seen the other content of the programme LIVE.
DT
DTV
Isn't that Newsnight shot above actually taken in the same set as used for HardTalk?


No it's the same set as "Impact".


I know it "looks" like the same set as Impact and Focus on Africa and Global with Soapy, but in the image specifically above, the whole thing looks virtual to me. Even the "fixed" fixtures of the set outwith the newswall also look as though they've been virtualized.

I do concede that I'm basing my comment only on the image above, having not actually seen the other content of the programme LIVE.


It is Studio B. They've just stuck a column on the side, to be honest it would have looked a lot better from Studio A. If it was in studio A why would they go the effort of putting in a Lightbox, the walkway and using the screens. Studio A needs to be utilised more, when BBC World News was moving into NBH they made a big deal out of Studio A but since they've been there apart from Newswatch, HARDtalk, 2100 News Hour and Click they have barely used it to 'enhance' the story telling - I've only seen it used on the launch day during Impact, The Papal Elections and one other occasion. Also I know Newsnight used it once for an interview.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
To do this kind of overlay, do they have to leave that camera locked off during the entire programme or do they line it up during a VT? (Studio B having real human camera operators rather than robot cameras)
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1979
To do this kind of overlay, do they have to leave that camera locked off during the entire programme or do they line it up during a VT? (Studio B having real human camera operators rather than robot cameras)


Camera 7 is used for this shot in a floor cradle.

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