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BBC News Channel General Discussion

(November 2013)

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HA
harshy Founding member
Markymark posted:
elmarko posted:
How the heck did you get those?


Some foreign broadcasters' London bureaux are given a clean feed of BBC news studio output, so they can record reports, and repackage them on their own broadcasts, though posting recordings on the internet is probably a breach of contract


Not supringsly the Beeb have pulled the video off Youtube, i wonder if the gentleman just taped into a fta bbc news clean feed via satellite and decided to post it on Youtube.
NY
NYTV
harshy posted:
Markymark posted:
elmarko posted:
How the heck did you get those?


Some foreign broadcasters' London bureaux are given a clean feed of BBC news studio output, so they can record reports, and repackage them on their own broadcasts, though posting recordings on the internet is probably a breach of contract


Not supringsly the Beeb have pulled the video off Youtube, i wonder if the gentleman just taped into a fta bbc news clean feed via satellite and decided to post it on Youtube.

That may be the case. It really was an interesting look into the Ten, but copyright is copyright.
TV
tvcl
To answers people's questions as to how I got the video, the clean feed of the BBC's 6pm and 10pm bulletins is broadcast unencrypted via satellite every day and has been for years. Seeing that BBC has taken the first video down, I won't be posting any more such videos, unfortunately.
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harshy, dosxuk and VMPhil gave kudos
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A former member
dosxuk posted:
billy something posted:
Markymark posted:
billy something posted:
Markymark posted:
elmarko posted:
How the heck did you get those?


Some foreign broadcasters' London bureaux are given a clean feed of BBC news studio output, so they can record reports, and repackage them on their own broadcasts, though posting recordings on the internet is probably a breach of contract

But it was an interesting watch nonetheless.


Oh, indeed yes

Why do they even need the cameras switched on while the presenter's preparing? Surely it's not that difficult to switch them off. And why do they need to feed this into other newsrooms??


You clearly have no idea what it takes to get a TV programme on air, or anything about studio technology for that matter.

That said, I'm sure even you can think of a reason they might want a feed of the studio output available in Australia yesterday. Give it a go!

Not everyone's worked in the gallery of BBC News! You can't expect normal people like me to know how to operate professional cameras!
DK
DanielK
billy something posted:
dosxuk posted:
billy something posted:
Markymark posted:
billy something posted:
Markymark posted:
elmarko posted:
How the heck did you get those?


Some foreign broadcasters' London bureaux are given a clean feed of BBC news studio output, so they can record reports, and repackage them on their own broadcasts, though posting recordings on the internet is probably a breach of contract

But it was an interesting watch nonetheless.


Oh, indeed yes

Why do they even need the cameras switched on while the presenter's preparing? Surely it's not that difficult to switch them off. And why do they need to feed this into other newsrooms??


You clearly have no idea what it takes to get a TV programme on air, or anything about studio technology for that matter.

That said, I'm sure even you can think of a reason they might want a feed of the studio output available in Australia yesterday. Give it a go!

Not everyone's worked in the gallery of BBC News! You can't expect normal people like me to know how to operate professional cameras!

Nearly daily, there are discussions about cameras, mixers, studios, both past and present, but instead of reading or glancing over those, you seem to spam multiple topics with questions that have either already been answered or totally pointless and the answer is completely obvious if you had read the topic.

*Cue the 'leave billy alone posts or the posts about not having time to read over the couple of previous pages*
IS
Inspector Sands
billy something posted:
Markymark posted:
billy something posted:
Markymark posted:
elmarko posted:
How the heck did you get those?


Some foreign broadcasters' London bureaux are given a clean feed of BBC news studio output, so they can record reports, and repackage them on their own broadcasts, though posting recordings on the internet is probably a breach of contract

But it was an interesting watch nonetheless.


Oh, indeed yes

Why do they even need the cameras switched on while the presenter's preparing? Surely it's not that difficult to switch them off. And why do they need to feed this into other newsrooms??

It's not normal to switch off studio cameras except when a studio has finished for the night.

The presenter is rehearsing, that's why they are on camera.

The bulletin is sent to other places so they can record it. It starts before the actual bulletin as a confidence to those taking the feed is working and routed correctly
MA
Markymark
Inspector Sands posted:

It's not normal to switch off studio cameras except when a studio has finished for the night.


News studio cameras have been left on, ever since the Kennedy assassination in 1963, back then of course
they took several minutes to warm up, and an hour or two to stabilise, the US broadcasters were caught out
having to do newsflashes in audio only on that day.

No technical issues today, cameras come up in a couple of seconds, but old habits die hard (and get passed down) Smile
NG
noggin Founding member
Markymark posted:
Inspector Sands posted:

It's not normal to switch off studio cameras except when a studio has finished for the night.


News studio cameras have been left on, ever since the Kennedy assassination in 1963, back then of course
they took several minutes to warm up, and an hour or two to stabilise, the US broadcasters were caught out
having to do newsflashes in audio only on that day.

No technical issues today, cameras come up in a couple of seconds, but old habits die hard (and get passed down) Smile


I don't think it's an old habit in this case, it's because the cameras are in use consantly!

The Studio that produces the Ten is also the News Channel studio. The News channel decamp to a different studio at 2100, leaving the studio available for pre-recording and rehearsals. Obviously the cameras need to remain switched on for both of these functions. You can't rehearse with the cameras switched off... There would be no point switching cameras off for a few minutes - in fact there probably isn't someone free to switch them off at the camera head, and as the cameras are mounted on Furio remote tracks it's probably a lot safer to leave them switched on.

If you are recording or rehearsing something particularly sensitive then you may re-route the studio outputs to colour bars or a similar signal, but normally you would leave your studio output up for a run-of-the-mill rehearsal as it is used to confirm that other areas are receiving the correct feed - which could be the BBC One Nations (who may take the studio clean for the Ten O'Clock News), international News partners (ABC Australia and TVNZ both get the Ten O'Clock News clean I believe) etc. First rule of working in a radio or TV studio is that every mic and camera could be live at all times. Don't say anyting or do anything you wouldn't want your gran to hear or see.
BA
Bail Moderator
DanielK posted:
Nearly daily, there are discussions about cameras, mixers, studios, both past and present, but instead of reading or glancing over those, you seem to spam multiple topics with questions that have either already been answered or totally pointless and the answer is completely obvious if you had read the topic.

*Cue the 'leave billy alone posts or the posts about not having time to read over the couple of previous pages*

Clearly I need to step in here...


http://lazyorange.net/Untitled-2.jpg

That is where the on/off switch is on a PMW-500... Which is most likely what's being used for lives. Studio cameras are different... although... not by much, only lack of internal recording.

I'm not helping am I Razz
NG
noggin Founding member
Exactly. Try reaching a little switch like that on a remotely controlled Furio camera that you aren't supposed to get near... (The studio cameras in NBH are HSC-300s, Sony HD triax jobs)
GE
thegeek Founding member
I'm not allowed near cameras much these days, but does switching off the CCU not effectively the same as switching off the camera?

Interesting to hear that the Ten goes out in clean on satellite. I knew that it was sent out to BT Tower, but didn't realise someone uplinked it too.
(The clean vision of the one/six/ten is usually followed by a playout of the VTs it contained, which can also be used by the appropriate rightsholders.)
NG
noggin Founding member
thegeek posted:
I'm not allowed near cameras much these days, but does switching off the CCU not effectively the same as switching off the camera?


Yes and no. You would normally only switch off the head but would leave the CCU powered (and would always switch off the head if you were re-patching triax/fibre during a repo on-air) Switching off the CCU would do more, and you might not want 'more' to be switched off.

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Interesting to hear that the Ten goes out in clean on satellite. I knew that it was sent out to BT Tower, but didn't realise someone uplinked it too.
(The clean vision of the one/six/ten is usually followed by a playout of the VTs it contained, which can also be used by the appropriate rightsholders.)


Yep - been going to Aus/NZ for years (decades?).

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