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BBC Three axed as a TV channel

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Cando
The series as a whole as past it prime, and it on a downward spiral, I dare say the other freeview channel didn't wish to waste the money .


Are you kidding me? Family Guy repeats often get close to 900k at 12am on a Friday night/Saturday morning. Channels would kill for it and it's demos. Very few know anything about the FG rights,All I do know is that Seth McFarlene is very chummy with Danny Cohen, (Seth has performed at the Proms twice) so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a quiet long term deal there.

Does anybody know what the carriage deal with Family Guy is at the moment? It came up for renewal last year, although the (previous?) director of the channel indicated they wouldn't be willing to pay silly money for it (as they did previously when bidding against E4 ): http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a337340/family-guy-future-debatable-says-bbc-three-controller.html


When was this?
I don't remember it being put to tender since it's arrival on three after a brief period on BBC 2 where it and American Dad did poorly
WP
WillPS
Cando posted:
Does anybody know what the carriage deal with Family Guy is at the moment? It came up for renewal last year, although the (previous?) director of the channel indicated they wouldn't be willing to pay silly money for it (as they did previously when bidding against E4 ): http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a337340/family-guy-future-debatable-says-bbc-three-controller.html


When was this?
I don't remember it being put to tender since it's arrival on three after a brief period on BBC 2 where it and American Dad did poorly

That is the round I'm talking about.

Jon posted:
What commercial operators are willing to pay for imported content is up to them - it shouldn't be something the BBC are getting involved in though (unless the rights are going cheap and the content is worthy of it; e.g. Parks & Recreation).

You could make an argument for it on PSB grounds in my opinion, especially if an alternative is the programme going behind a paywall.

I disagree. I think there should be a ceiling price that the BBC will pay for imported stuff, and that should be significantly beneath the cost of producing a programme.

In this day and age, very little general entertainment content is available *only* by subscribing to a service.
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Cando
How can this channel be costing £100m yet only broadcast 90mins of new content a day? Does much of the money get wasted on Films? US cartoons?

Where is the money going?

It costs 75m and do you have any idea how much an hour of Factual or a new drama/ comedy costs?? This week alone they have 4 hours of new hours of Factual at 9pm and 4 new comedies at 10pm (with one being a co pro with ABC/HBO).
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Cando
Cando posted:
Does anybody know what the carriage deal with Family Guy is at the moment? It came up for renewal last year, although the (previous?) director of the channel indicated they wouldn't be willing to pay silly money for it (as they did previously when bidding against E4 ): http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a337340/family-guy-future-debatable-says-bbc-three-controller.html


When was this?
I don't remember it being put to tender since it's arrival on three after a brief period on BBC 2 where it and American Dad did poorly

That is the round I'm talking about.
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When it arrived on BBC 2/3? Because C4 didn't bid then as the show had been a costly flop for them years before and BBC picked the rights up for next to nothing. I remember the boss of E4 complaining at Edinburgh media festival around 2 years ago about not even having the chance to bid on them.
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Jon
You could make an argument for it on PSB grounds in my opinion, especially if an alternative is the programme going behind a paywall. So you'd like to see the BBC pay more money for programmes of lower value to the target audience simply because it's made here?

If these were the only things BBC Three show I could maybe get the argument, but it's part of much wider range of programming and it shouldn't be penalised for it's popularity. It may also act as a shop window for the rest of the channel meaning more young people see more of those worthy home produced shows than would have otherwise done so.
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WillPS
Cando posted:
Cando posted:
Does anybody know what the carriage deal with Family Guy is at the moment? It came up for renewal last year, although the (previous?) director of the channel indicated they wouldn't be willing to pay silly money for it (as they did previously when bidding against E4 ): http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a337340/family-guy-future-debatable-says-bbc-three-controller.html


When was this?
I don't remember it being put to tender since it's arrival on three after a brief period on BBC 2 where it and American Dad did poorly

That is the round I'm talking about.
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When it arrived on BBC 2/3? Because C4 didn't bid then as the show had been a costly flop for them years before and BBC picked the rights up for next to nothing. I remember the boss of E4 complaining at Edinburgh media festival around 2 years ago about not even having the chance to bid on them.

You're completely right; one of those things were the facts get mixed up with time! From memory C4 did next to nothing with the rights. I caught the show once or twice very late on Friday nights.
WH
Whataday Founding member
The series as a whole as past it prime, and it on a downward spiral, I dare say the other freeview channel didn't wish to waste the money.


Didn't stop Channel 4 bidding over the odds for The Simpsons.

What commercial operators are willing to pay for imported content is up to them - it shouldn't be something the BBC are getting involved in though (unless the rights are going cheap and the content is worthy of it; e.g. Parks & Recreation).


I can't remember the finer points of the Channel 4 deal but they've had 7-10 shows a week out of it for 10 years with fairly stable (if not earthshattering) ratings. I'm sure it's delivered well enough for them.


That was my point - just because a show has seen better days, doesn't mean it's not worth bidding for.
LL
London Lite Founding member
I was having a BBC Three debate with people who don't have an interest in the industry. The perception is from the 'norms' is that it shows Family Guy four hours per night and repeats of EastEnders.

Some of them aren't in their target audience, but if this is the general consensus from people, it's no surprise the BBC are doing this, despite the worthy programming on before Family Guy.
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A former member
I've just seen a promo for BBC three on BBC one for the 9pm Jct: IE this: How long have there been doing this. Does it help gain any viewers?

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Gary McEwan
I've just seen a promo for BBC three on BBC one for the 9pm Jct: IE this: How long have there been doing this. Does it help gain any viewers?

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I've seen this several times now, and has been getting quite frequent of late...
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A former member
I was having a BBC Three debate with people who don't have an interest in the industry. The perception is from the 'norms' is that it shows Family Guy four hours per night and repeats of EastEnders.

Some of them aren't in their target audience, but if this is the general consensus from people, it's no surprise the BBC are doing this, despite the worthy programming on before Family Guy.


I have watched a number of BBC programmes including Sun, sex and S.. parents, along with a number of other people. We never watched it on the telly, instead.... we watched it on the iplayer. Actually I know alot of people who watch many programmes on the I player.

I still believe said programmes should get a TV airing, even if a good number of viewers are watching online.
PC
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I still believe said programmes should get a TV airing, even if a good number of viewers are watching online.


BBC director of television Danny Cohen has said the plan is to ensure all shows get a repeat on BBC1 or BBC2 after BBC3 goes online. He also insists that means they will not be watered down. Hmm.

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