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New Meridian, BBC South & South East Thread

(July 2006)

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RW
Robert Williams Founding member
Yes, I've never really understood why High Wycombe carries 3CR, but it can be split from the rest of the station, generally for commentaries of Wycombe Wanderers.


I suppose as since High Wycombe is in Bucks, and the 'Three Counties' are Beds, Herts and Bucks, it makes most sense for the High Wycombe transmitter to carry 3CR. However I seem to remember before that transmitter was opened, it was Radio Berkshire that used to cover the southern parts of Bucks. These days, they cover the northern parts of Hampshire, including Basingstoke, instead. But looking at BBC Radio Oxford's FM service area...

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/oxford/oxford-local-ms-map.jpg

Seeing as the Oxford transmitter already splurges over much of Bucks, I wonder why it wasn't originally decided to give that county to Radio Oxford to cover, with the Bow Brickhill and High Wycombe transmitters filling in the north and south respectively. Then Three Counties Radio could have been Two Counties Radio instead, which would have evened things up a bit between the two stations, instead the situation we have now where 3CR has a vast area to cover with a TSA of 1,332,000, while Radio Oxford has a TSA of just 523,000.

Just to add to BBC local radio editorial areas not matching tv region areas.

BBC Surrey is part of BBC South East's administrative area, yet the tv region for the vast majority of the county, including the towns of Guildford, Reigate and Redhill are in BBC London's editorial area and covered by the local transmitters which are relays of CP. (Some viewers using satellite may have SET on Sky 101 in East Surrey/North Sussex).


I can't speak for the rest of East Surrey, but BBC London is certainly on 101 in Reigate. Incidentally, the upcoming Surrey DAB multiplex will be using Crystal Palace as one of its initial three transmitters, which means BBC Surrey will soon coming through loud and clear throughout South and West London, well outside its editorial area!
MA
Markymark
Yes, I've never really understood why High Wycombe carries 3CR, but it can be split from the rest of the station, generally for commentaries of Wycombe Wanderers.


I suppose as since High Wycombe is in Bucks, and the 'Three Counties' are Beds, Herts and Bucks, it makes most sense for the High Wycombe transmitter to carry 3CR. However I seem to remember before that transmitter was opened, it was Radio Berkshire that used to cover the southern parts of Bucks. These days, they cover the northern parts of Hampshire, including Basingstoke, instead. .


Actually, the original plan was for BBC Berks to have High Wycombe officially in its area. The original allocation plan from the late 80s, shows High Wycombe being tied to Berkshire, and using 104.9. That frequency was 'hi jacked' by the then IBA, and used for Melody Radio in London (later Melody were moved to 105.4, and 104.9 was readvertised with XFM ending up with it). Years later (2000 ish) the Beeb managed to find 98.0 for High Wycombe, but instead allocated it to 3CR.

The original original plan for Berks, was to have 'BBC Berks and Surrey' using Hannington and Guildford as the primary sites, (and the relays at High W, Windsor Castle, Henley, and Reading). Sussex would have stayed as a free standing service. For a few years in the 90s, Berks was merged with Oxford to form BBC Thames Valley, so it's rather a dog's breakfast !!!

It doesn't always make scene to keep BBC LR partitioned within counties. It makes perfect sense
for Chesterfield to be part of Radio Sheffield, rather than Derby, but equally no sense for Buxton
to be served by Derby, (better that it was Manchester ?)
TL
Three Lefts Do
Another wonderfully unconventional sign-off from Jerome Sale for the 6:40pm throw to Southampton tonight.

The final story was about students camping-out in shifts outside a letting agents in Oxford, to get the best accommodation.

Jerome's sign-off was something like: "I've got to go now. Sally Taylor's been camping-out to get a prime spot here on BBC One..."

Brilliant. Smile
ST
South Today
Granted hes good but hes not the best Oxfordshire news anchor! Wink
BE
benriggers
Granted hes good but hes not the best Oxfordshire news anchor! Wink

Personally I like to see Wesley Smith be our news anchor.
ST
South Today
Here Here....Once the anchor of a regional news programme. Now odd Daybreak bulletins in the Westcountry.
DE
deejay
Wes is a pretty busy freelancer for lots of ITV stations and does plenty of other work too! He's worked for Granada, Central, Channel and Westcountry in recent months. He has appeared on Radio Oxford and BBC Oxford News (as was). He hosted separate Oxford's Children in Need opts from Banbury a few years ago and did occasional features and reports for the half hour programmes that used to run on Fridays. He's definitely worth a follow on Twitter Smile
HB
HarryB
A new face on the weather here in the south, Owain Wyn Evans presented from a plasma screen which I've looked around and is the weatherman for Wales Today, with the plasma I suspect from their studio
TL
Three Lefts Do
Geraldine Peers is back on ST Oxford tonight, for the first time in what seems like ages.

I didn't see last night's programme, so don't know if she was already back yesterday.
ST
South Today
No it wasn't her last night. Good to see her back!

14 days later

TL
Three Lefts Do
ITV News Meridian began tonight with the pan-South title sequence, rather than the Thames Valley one.

Normally, Fred an Sangeeta's opening link includes the phrase "Tonight's headlines in the Thames Valley..." (and, presumably, "...in the South" on the Rowridge/Midhurst edition?). But, tonight, the phrase was simply "Tonight's headlines..." with no sub-region specified, so it is clearly a pan-South edition. Presumably, viewers in the South East are seeing a fully stand-alone sub-regional edition as usual.

The top story is about the 25th anniversary of the Clapham Junction rail crash of 12/12/1988 (the relevance to the Meridian (or TVS?!) region being that the train had started at Basingstoke).

EDIT: Clapham coverage ran until about 6:17pm, then a "still to come"/sting routine to move on to other news. I had thought that this would be belated Thames Valley/South Coast split opts, but given that the first story is from Worthing, the entire programme is seemingly going to be pan-South tonight.

We surely will have to get longer Thames Valley/South Coast opts on another night(s) this week, in order to adhere to sub-regional minutage obligations. I think we've actually already had some/all of that "compensation" on Mon-Wed this week, in anticipation of today's anniversary, as I think the split has lasted at least a couple of minutes beyond 6:10pm in the last few days.
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MA
Markymark

The top story is about the 25th anniversary of the Clapham Junction rail crash of 12/12/1988 (the relevance to the Meridian (or TVS?!) region being that the train had started at Basingstoke).


Yes, a lot of those killed and injured were from the town. I know someone who was badly injured, and also
someone who only missed the train, because he remembered while standing on the platform, that he'd
left his headlights on, and so returned to the car.

Back on topic, it happened on the day of launch of TVS's sub opt from Hannington (which Meridian made into a full sub region from 1993)

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