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JA
james2001 Founding member
When I first heard about It's Now or Never getting axed, I thought it sounded familiar, and I've just realised why:

http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21424

Seems ITV were desperate right from the start.
HA
harshy Founding member
well as said ITV will be dead, Charles Allen and co have destroyed ITV, and it's going to be lost in a few years in this age of multi-tv crap programming.

As to ITV not hitting targets, if they keep commissioning and wasting money on ***t like this, they have absolutely no chance of satisfying their shareholders, as I said ITV is a complete joke now.
AN
Andrew Founding member
davidlees posted:
This Is Granada posted:
What about the poor b****r who would have been the star of the 2nd episode, and now its never going to be aired!!


At least she got her picture in The Daily Mirror's TV magazine. The second episode of Its Now or Never was their pick of the day for Saturday.

Which is rich considering their tv critic probably slagged it off and dedicated many column inches to it midweek.
DU
Dunedin
Andrew posted:

I'm sure if you go back to this Saturday 10 years ago the schedules won't have looked any better


I would actually love to see this comparison- I recently published one comparing a weeknight in 1986 to 2006, which showed a MASSIVE decline in variety. The 1986 schedule was a varied mix of comedy, drama, investigative journalism, and primetime evening news. The 2006 schedule offered soaps, more soaps, continuing drama (read soap- The Bill) and a late news.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar comparison in variety of 1996 to 2006- does anyone know how to find archive schedules?
AN
Andrew Founding member
The oldest I've got to hand is a schedule from Saturday 11th August 2001, near enough 5 years ago.

The schedule looked like this

BBC1
6.20 Big Break
6.50 The Other Half Celebrity Special
7.30 National Lottery: Winning Lines
8.15 FILM: Made in America
9.55 BBC News
10.15 FILM: Total Recall

ITV1
5.40 The Charm Offensive
6.10 Oblivious
7.00 Bruce's Price is Right
7.30 You've Been Framed
8.15 This is my Moment
9.15 Poirot (Rpt)
10.15 This is my Moment Results
10.30 ITV News
10.45 Film: The Pelican Brief

See, just as unforgetable as summer saturdays in 2006
DU
Dunedin
Andrew posted:
The oldest I've got to hand is a schedule from Saturday 11th August 2001, near enough 5 years ago.

The schedule looked like this

BBC1
6.20 Big Break
6.50 The Other Half Celebrity Special
7.30 National Lottery: Winning Lines
8.15 FILM: Made in America
9.55 BBC News
10.15 FILM: Total Recall

ITV1
5.40 The Charm Offensive
6.10 Oblivious
7.00 Bruce's Price is Right
7.30 You've Been Framed
8.15 This is my Moment
9.15 Poirot (Rpt)
10.15 This is my Moment Results
10.30 ITV News
10.45 Film: The Pelican Brief

See, just as unforgetable as summer saturdays in 2006


I'm genuinely interesting in your reply to this question Andrew, and I ask it because I don't watch that much of the channel, whereas I know you keep a keen eye on it:

In your opinion is the ITV1 of today better/worse/the same as ITV of 10 years ago?
PR
Primetime
Cool It sounded as if back 10 years ago they had a wide range of programmes. Such as Cemedies, Dramas, Entertainement, Primetime news and Journalism (sorry if wrong spelling). Cool

Evil or Very Mad But now its, Soaps, more soaps.. dramas, often repeated too much. Junk Entertainement / Reality. No comedies or investigative programmes. Evil or Very Mad

Twisted Evil Wheres the need.. they really should think about what's happened over the years. Plus they need a really good shake-up Mad

..thats my views. Rolling Eyes
JE
Jez Founding member
The oldest tv guide ive got is week commencing Saturday 8th April 2000.

Schedule for Saturday night that week was as follows;

BBC1

6.00pm Question of Pop
6.30pm Whatever you want
7.20pm Red Alert with the National Lottery
8.05pm Casualty
8.55pm Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased)
9.45pm Its only tv but I like it
10.15pm BBC News

ITV

6.00pm Family Fortunes
6.30pm You've Been Framed
7.15pm Blind Date
8.15pm Stars in their Eyes
9.05pm The Brian Conley Show
10.00pm News
10.15pm Film: Total Recall

Lets compare a weekday evening on ITV as well

Monday 10th April 2000

7.00pm Wish You Were Here?
7.30pm Coronation Street
8.00pm Airline
8.30pm Carol Vorderman's Better Homes
9.00pm Monsignor Renard
10.30pm Savage Planet
11.00pm ITV News

So much more variety therein 2000, especially weeknights on ITV. Only half hour of a soap on a Monday evening, we get 3 times that now and that was only just over 6 years ago!
BR
Brekkie
God, whatever happened to Wish You Were Here? I don't think it was ever officially "axed" - just disappeared didn't it (via daytime TV!)


As for Saturdays - it's all rose tinted spectacles again! Thinking of the BBC, we remember the likes of Noels House Party and the Generation Game being on in the Autumn/Winter, but I for one can't think of what they showed in the summer!
MA
marksi
Year on year, ITV1's audience share has dropped by 16.8%
AN
Andrew Founding member
Dunedin posted:
I'm genuinely interesting in your reply to this question Andrew, and I ask it because I don't watch that much of the channel, whereas I know you keep a keen eye on it:

In your opinion is the ITV1 of today better/worse/the same as ITV of 10 years ago?

It's quite obvious that ITV1 today is worse than it was 10 years ago, but this isn't just something that ITV decided to do on their own, a lot of it is due to external influences. Show me a channel that isn't worse now than it was 10 years ago. The entire TV industry is becoming so thinly spread, with audiences low across the board and 100s of channels showing nothing special. Almost all channels rely on a small number of programmes. In the case of the main channels it's by showing lots of episodes of it, be that Emmerdale or Big Brother, on the digital channels it's a case of showing a new episode and repeating it 100 times, i.e Two Pints.

When multi-channel started they should have limited it to about 50 channels max!
PT
Put The Telly On
Brekkie Boy posted:
As for Saturdays - it's all rose tinted spectacles again! Thinking of the BBC, we remember the likes of Noels House Party and the Generation Game being on in the Autumn/Winter, but I for one can't think of what they showed in the summer!


I think the BBC had shows like Whatever You Want with Gaby Roslin and dramas like Daziel and Pascoe, Time Traveller with Michael French throughout the summer months. Obviously the heavily relied on the constant National Lottery show ideas back then.

I remember ITV on Sunday evenings - now that has changed alot. In the mid-nineties we had regional programming, Surprise Surprise with Cilla or Schofield's Quest. Then of course they decided to air Corrie on Sunday nights along with Who Wants to be a Millionaire. Nowadays of course, we have Emmerdale filling the 7pm slot.

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