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(July 2004)

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SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Spencer For Hire posted:
sjdavis posted:
..and bankrupcty, fraud, fostering, surrogacy, drug use, alcohol culture, interviews with policitians, adoption, paedohilia on the internet, celebrity 'trials', traffic chaos...

I'd say they were all important social issues!

It's still all very tabloid isn't it? And there's next to nothing covered outside the UK. Considering it's ITV's most prominent current affairs programme, it's a shame it's become more of a dumbed down consumer show.


RTS Award winning over consecutive years isn't it ? Isn't there a BBC equivalent with Fiona Bruce which doesn't do as well ?
SP
Spencer
Square Eyes posted:
Spencer For Hire posted:
sjdavis posted:
..and bankrupcty, fraud, fostering, surrogacy, drug use, alcohol culture, interviews with policitians, adoption, paedohilia on the internet, celebrity 'trials', traffic chaos...

I'd say they were all important social issues!

It's still all very tabloid isn't it? And there's next to nothing covered outside the UK. Considering it's ITV's most prominent current affairs programme, it's a shame it's become more of a dumbed down consumer show.


RTS Award winning over consecutive years isn't it ? Isn't there a BBC equivalent with Fiona Bruce which doesn't do as well ?


Yes, but at least they have Panorama as well.

12 days later

SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Didn't know where else to put this really, so thought I'd resurrect this thread.

I notice trails are running at the moment for ITV's "The Block", which looks like a number of couples compete to renovate some houses / flats, with the unique twist this time, they're in a block.

We've just had "Building the Dream", "Trouble in Paradise" & previously "Design Wars", which correct me if I'm wrong were all ratings flops. Why are ITV persisting on this bizarre genre of property development with a reality TV twist ? It's so futile.

Is this going to be another show that starts out in primetime before being relegated to daytime obscurity ?
TA
Tagesschau
Resistance is futile.
BO
boring_user_name
Quote:

We've just had "Building the Dream", "Trouble in Paradise" & previously "Design Wars", which correct me if I'm wrong were all ratings flops. Why are ITV persisting on this bizarre genre of property development with a reality TV twist ? It's so futile.


This is the result of accountants with no creative talent running a televison operation requiring a lot of creativity. The hilarious thing is they think that by constantly adapting reality tv, they are being incredibly innovative and creative.

Seriously, I heard that a few weeks ago Allen called the board of itv to his Surrey mansion to brainstorm new ideas. This must be one of the results...
BR
Brekkie
Square Eyes posted:
Didn't know where else to put this really, so thought I'd resurrect this thread.

I notice trails are running at the moment for ITV's "The Block", which looks like a number of couples compete to renovate some houses / flats, with the unique twist this time, they're in a block.

We've just had "Building the Dream", "Trouble in Paradise" & previously "Design Wars", which correct me if I'm wrong were all ratings flops. Why are ITV persisting on this bizarre genre of property development with a reality TV twist ? It's so futile.

Is this going to be another show that starts out in primetime before being relegated to daytime obscurity ?


The Block is a highly successful Aussie format which ITV won the rights to in a bidding war with C4 - but to be honest, I had presumed Building the Dream was their version of it. I think the difference is they have a home each to work on.
SJ
sjdavis
Spencer For Hire posted:
It's still all very tabloid isn't it? And there's next to nothing covered outside the UK. Considering it's ITV's most prominent current affairs programme, it's a shame it's become more of a dumbed down consumer show.

How *more* consumer can you get if they're highlighting the issues which I mentioned?!!

9 days later

SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Looks as if the axeman has once again cometh for another new ITV drama. Noticed a trailer going out on ITV1, advertising a late schedule change tomorrow night at 9pm when we are to be treat to "It Shouldn't Happen to a Soap Star", which I can only presume means that "Making Waves" has been pulled early.

Another commisioning disaster ?
LU
Luke
Square Eyes posted:
Looks as if the axeman has once again cometh for another new ITV drama. Noticed a trailer going out on ITV1, advertising a late schedule change tomorrow night at 9pm when we are to be treat to "It Shouldn't Happen to a Soap Star", which I can only presume means that "Making Waves" has been pulled early.


He has, indeed:

Media Guardian posted:

Making Waves sinks from ITV peak time

ITV1 naval drama Making Waves has been dropped from its 9pm peak time slot halfway through its six-week run after the show's audience slumped by nearly 2 million viewers.

The audience for Making Waves, which starred Alex Ferns as the commander of a fictional Royal Navy ship, dropped from 5.5 million to just 3.7 million between the first and third episodes, prompting the decision to dump the show from ITV1's peak time line-up.

But Royal Navy top brass are reportedly fuming about the decision after loaning ITV one of its warships, HMS Grafton, for months of filming.

According to today's Sun, First Sea Lord Admiral Sir Alan West is "hopping mad" about the axing of Making Waves.

However, an ITV spokeswoman said the decision should not be taken as a snub to the navy.

ITV1 will replace Making Waves with entertainment specials at 9pm on Wednesdays for the remaining three weeks of its run, starting tonight with It Shouldn't Happen on a TV Soap.

The remaining episodes of Making Waves will be broadcast at a later date, probably in an 11pm slot.

Making Waves had the misfortune of coming up against Channel 4 reality hit Supernanny, which attracted audiences of up to 5.7 million in the 9pm-10pm Wednesday slot.

Supernanny has now come to the end of its run and Making Waves would tonight have faced a Cutting Edge documentary, Sleeping with the Au Pair, and Big Brother next Wednesday.

However, the ITV director of programmes, Nigel Pickard, obviously decided the show was not going to recover after its early mauling by Supernanny.

The ITV drama controller, Nick Elliott, is believed not to have been a big fan of Making Waves and although it was delivered last September, the fact that it was not put into the schedule until July suggests the broadcaster did not have a great deal of faith in the drama.

Making Waves is the first low rating drama Mr Pickard has pulled from his peak time schedule this year - a better performance than in 2003, when Fortysomething, Family, Single and Sweet Medicine were all axed.

ITV1's last big peak time flop was reality show Trouble in Paradise, which was dumped in May, after just two out of seven episodes of the series had been broadcast

22 days later

SE
Square Eyes Founding member
More woe for ITV1, as they move The Vault & The Block out of primetime Tuesday nights as of 31st August, with The Block only half way through it's run.

When will they learn that property shows and reality shows don't really mix, after putting out 3 of them this year alone ??!!! They really do need to go back to basics.

Nigel Pickard hasn't exactly rejuvinated the network, wonder how safe his job is ? Or is Charles Allen the fall guy ?
:-(
A former member
Where will The Vault be going then? The 5pm Slot?!
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
jordo posted:
Where will The Vault be going then? The 5pm Slot?!

Don't know, the last was one due to go out the week after, 7th September anyway. They'll probably just end the run 2 weeks early.

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