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CBSN LOCAL - New York channel has launched

CBS plans to launch local news channels based on CBSN in the US (August 2018)

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Mouseboy33
Even the O&Os don't have the level of resources the national CBSN operation does. CBSN regularly throws to Washington, London, Los Angeles, Miami, Dallas, and other places where CBS News has bureaux that are capable of providing contributions.

Sorry I didnt understand your point. But why would the CBSN Locals in NYC need to reguarly throw to DC or Dallas or London? Typically if there a big story of national or international importance the network will line up a live shot that is timed to go out to all the affiliates during the evening and nightly local newscasts simultaneously. These reports are typically provided by the affiliate news service ABC NEWSONE, CBS NEWSPATH, NBC NewsChannel, FOX NewsEDGE.

For example the local presenters at hundreds of affiliates at 10pm CT or 11pm ET will all tease the story and then at the same time say something like: "For more on this story CBS Reporter John Smith is live for us from Blah Blah Blah" this toss is typically shown in a double-box graphic shot or something and then all the affiliates take the same live report. The reporter intros the package, package rolls. Reporter wrap up the package and then in a double-box shot the reporter says: "Im John Smith Live in Blah Blah Blah back to you." Then the local presenting team takes it, wraps it up and usually says. Stay with CBS 2 and CBS News and CBSNews.com for continuing coverage.

Hope that answers some questions.
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Charles
^^^

Actually, all of the wire services offer custom live shots from Washington almost everyday to every affiliate. The correspondents are usually the B-rate correspondents who are almost never on the network evening newscasts. But stations can book them to provide a custom intro to the package, do a suggested question after, or just do live crosstalk with video over it. They'll dial into the station IFB phone line like any other reporter. It's usually a few hundred dollars for a five minute window, though O&Os get free/discounted/subsidized access to custom lives. I'm guessing the CBS Newspath correspondents probably will have some role in these local channels.

There are also the group live shots, which are free for all stations and pretty much what you describe: stations are told that the correspondent will start at, say, 6:01:00 on a common satellite path. But these are typically only done when there's a major national story or during election campaigns.

But back to the original topic, this is an interesting idea, though I am wondering how they will fill all that airtime. I see they're hiring more producers, which is good, but unless if they also hire more of everybody (particularly reporters and photographers), it's just going to be a stretching of all the existing content in newscasts and on the network wires.

Also, there's no way you're going to see live shots from the bureau in Melville. Lots (nearly all?) local stations have bureaus, but they don't really have full live broadcasting capabilities. They're really more just a home base for crews who are too far to commute to the main newsroom everyday, but then they fan out to wherever the story may be. If there's something going on in Melville, you'll see a live shot somewhere outside rather than in a nearly empty TV studio.
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Mouseboy33
Yeah that, basically what I said.
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cityprod
Even the O&Os don't have the level of resources the national CBSN operation does. CBSN regularly throws to Washington, London, Los Angeles, Miami, Dallas, and other places where CBS News has bureaux that are capable of providing contributions.

Sorry I didnt understand your point. But why would the CBSN Locals in NYC need to reguarly throw to DC or Dallas or London?


That wasn't what I was talking about either.

CBSN have studios all over the US and overseas, to have guests and reporters in. These are permanent connections, and are far cheaper to run than a satellite truck. Simple DTL setups.

CBS New York, only have their studios in Manhattan and Long Island. As far as I know, there are no DTL studio facilities for CBS New York in New Jersey or Conneticut, which are both part of their coverage area. Now I know they are going to send satellite trucks to cover major stories for their major programmes, and those will probably also get used during their CBSN Local programmes, but they don't currently have simple DTL facilities that would make it easier for guests to join them or for reporters to contribute from.

By comparison, BBC Spotlight in my area, have DTL facilities in both Truro and Exeter, as well as their main studio centre in Plymouth. Such facilites make it easier to get contributors and reporters on air quicker, than sending a satellite truck out. ITV Westcountry back in the day, had similar single camera facilities in Penzance, Truro, Torquay, Barnstaple, Exeter, Taunton and Weymouth. It better enabled them to cover their region.
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Mouseboy33
Well frankly most North American local stations dont operate like that anyway. Neither do many of the local news channels, of which there are plenty across North America. If they need to interview someone immediately, say for a breaking story or something, they would just do a phoner, skype call or they would simply invite them into the studio, if the guest isnt already at the scene of the breaking story. And many stations have Dejero-style packs for reporters if they are out in the field on a story. I've seen stations do live shots with reporters on iphones. DTL studios really arent and havent been a thing here. Its not very cost effective. Live remote interviews arent really a thing on just a regular story, at least you do seem them very often unless the reporter is already on scene putting a package together. Especially if its not a breaking story. You'd never seen one. It will usually be part of a package report put together or the guest would be in studio.

Having said that some stations have other bureaus in other cities. Some stations have partnered with local newspapers for small space.
For example WBRC 6 Birmingham has a Tuscaloosa newsroom (the small city previously had its own CBS affiliate) But interviews are never usually done from these spaces, it would just be done by a reporter on scene with a camera and Dejero pack or something.
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cityprod
Well frankly most North American local stations dont operate like that anyway. Neither do many of the local news channels, of which there are plenty across North America. If they need to interview someone immediately, say for a breaking story or something, they would just do a phoner, skype call or they would simply invite them into the studio, if the guest isnt already at the scene of the breaking story.


But the CBSN model uses them a lot. Every time I watch, they are doing a DTL from Washington or LA or London or somewhere else, and since these are going to be based on the CBSN model, because getting an interviewee to talk about a story is cheaper than having a reporter there covering it, I'm expecting to see more DTLs than live shots.
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Charles
I doubt we'll see very many live interviews on these channels, especially any that aren't in house. That's just not something that local news in the U.S. does very often, and I doubt they'll start doing them just to fill time. Local news in the U.S. is much more about keeping up the pace with more stories.

KPIX San Francisco has been doing hourly mini-newscasts on its Facebook page on weekdays. I think this is probably the best glimpse at what these channels will be like. These hourly updates are essentially about 8-15 minutes of a lot of content that's in the main newscasts. No live reporters are in them usually, though there are two anchors and weather. I can see how they would just keep recuing these and swapping them out if there's breaking news, much like what CBSN does.

Here's the 4pm KPIX update from yesterday. The mid-morning ones are a little shorter. Also, nothing out of the ordinary in the production quality here aside from a different open, a chip in the lower thirds, and only one ad at the very end.

https://www.facebook.com/CBSSanFrancisco/videos/10155952775309436/
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noggin Founding member

There are also the group live shots, which are free for all stations and pretty much what you describe: stations are told that the correspondent will start at, say, 6:01:00 on a common satellite path. But these are typically only done when there's a major national story or during election campaigns.


When the BBC and ABC were newsgathering partners it wasn't unusual for the BBC News Channel/BBC News 24 to also use these clock-start live hits on US stories (usually bad weather ones...).

You'd normally add a second or two to the start time to counteract link delays. Always a massive 'finger cross' moment when you cut to them at hopefully the right time. Some of them were great and would say to all stations what time they were expecting to start and give helpful time checks.

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Mouseboy33
CBSN New York has launched today.
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The first of the CBS LOCAL News channels has launched. Using the content from this local CBS affiliate has made another smart move by further monetizing its local content and creating local news channel. *
The channel can be found on the affiliate website, also nestled along side its other streaming channels within the CBSN app for Roku, AppleTv etc. (Currently they launched CBSN, CBS Sports HQ, ET LIVE, and CBSN NY)
So far the channel will use content from WCBS and its Long Island indy affiliate WLNY.
CBSN New York features live streams of regularly scheduled newscasts on WCBS and WLNY and additional weekday one-hour newscasts at 7AM, 1PM and 7PM that will be produced exclusively for CBSN New York. In addition, CBSN New York will provide live coverage of breaking news events and an extensive library of local news content available for on-demand viewing. Programming on CBSN New York will be led by WCBS and WLNY anchors and reporters as well as a team of journalists who will report exclusively for CBSN New York. KCBS LA will be the next channel to launch in 2019.

The presentation looks pretty good. Partially using WCBS graphics with CBSNNY weather bar and a grey box with the CBS NY logo covering the normal WCBS logo. Also I havent seen it yet . But they also have a smaller set that is used exclusively for CBS NY. As you can see in the pic above it seems to be a gray brick wall and a simple image blurred with a single colour logo overlayed. Its a very clean look.



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from JRogotzke

https://deadline.com/2018/12/cbs-launches-cbsn-new-york-in-local-direct-to-consumer-news-push-1202519508/
https://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/cbs-television-stations-launch-cbsn-new-york
Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 14 December 2018 1:16am - 3 times in total
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Justin
Caught the 8pm hour of CBSN NY. The fact that they're coming from that small set rather than the newsroom, unlike CBSN-proper, combined with the strange microphone quality gives off a public access TV feel. The whole thing still looks rather amateurish, especially compared to something like NY1 which is their competition.
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Rkolsen
The simulcast looks a bit off, in my opinion they should either take the straight output or if available take the bugless control room output and insert their own. The black logo and ticker look very awkward.

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I’m also interested in how many people are behind the scenes or is it just the anchor operating the prompter herself with one person behind the scenes.
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mark Founding member
Are the 7am, 1pm and 7pm newscasts the ones from the grey set?

If so, it's a bit strange that they're still repeating (presumably) the 7pm one at 3.30am (complete with 'good evening' greeting) when there are more up-to-date WLNY and WCBS newscasts from 9pm and 11pm respectively.

I like the graphics but not sure about the set, which feels a bit London Live to me. I guess they're trying to reflect elements of the CBSN set with the bricks and frosted glass as opposed to the really nice WCBS set.

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