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I will give my opinion and join the conversation just like you. I can choose to respond to a statement or agree with another poster if I so choose. Whilst I appreciate your 4 paragraph dissertation on why you think you're right and Im wrong, I dont agree. Thats why its a discussion forum. Yet you tell other specific posters to "give it rest" and their comments are "rubbish" they are "wasting their breath" when people disagree with you. Pot calling the kettle black. Its interesting that you know think you know everything about how North American broadcasting works, but posters from other countries cant know or understand how UK broadcasting works or anything about it. I disagree.
I hope your day gets better. [Hugs]
But the thing is... while I'm sure you're a lovely human (ignoring the highly condescending end to your last post), you're coming to the conversation with a mis-framed understanding of the context of how the infrastructure of local broadcasting works in the UK.
Up to a point, that's not your fault, but when you willfully refuse to take on-board input from people who know - and can explain - more than you about the topic at-hand and your best argument essentially becomes: "It's my right to be the loudest voice in the room even if I'm factually wrong", that's actually counterproductive to the conversation to which you're trying to contribute.
Speaking as a Brit who spent his teenage years in Boston (Mass) and ran a website about the local news industry there which regularly big-footed the two sizable local newspapers on media stories, I know both eco-systems well, so while I don't wish to wade into the merits (or lack thereof) of either side of the discussion, I will leave it at this:
The dismissal of the primacy of expertise is responsible for a lot of messed-up stuff in the world right now, but above all, for the coarsening of discussion and debate across all kinds of platforms. Sometimes yielding to others' knowledge actually adds weight to one's own voice in the future.
I have always lived in hope that one day, Mouseboy, you would finally grasp that just because something works in America, it won't necessarily also work here. However, you seem hell bent on yet again delivering your sermon on how local TV channels here are missing the obvious because it works in America so it'll be a 100% success here. As many others before me have said, you are most likely wrong.
A large number of channels covering local audiences in the US are often affiliated to a big network like NBC, ABC or CBS, but we don't have that structure in the UK, meaning that any local channel will either be showing repeats or low budget in-house productions when they're not showing news. I know some channels in the US don't have any affiliation, and instead may show syndicated stuff, but we don't have that system here either.
The in-house stuff local TV in the UK produces will then be low budget, because unlike in the US people are not used to having these local channels, and so they don't turn to them. People are used to going to the ITV and BBC for local news, or the websites of local newspapers etc, because that's how it has always worked, and as much as you protest to the contrary old habits die hard.
Your point about 'coverage complexity' being a weak argument is rubbish. It is bloody difficult for any one service to cover an area such as London, because of how devolved all the councils are and how things don't happen consistently council to council. You talk of how LA is full of smaller cities, but how well covered are these smaller places? I suspect that, much like people living in rural parts of BBC and ITV regions, they also think that they aren't particularly well covered by big broadcasters covering a large patch. Likewise, because they're used to the system of good local news, they may be very well covered. But that isn't how it works here.
All in all, you can say as much as you like that local TV is awful here because US broadcasters are fantastic and wise and wonderful, but you're wasting your breath. You consistently fail to put across convincing arguments as to why local TV should work really well here, and when people disagree you tend to roll your eyes, belittle the member involved and repeat why you're right and everyone else is wrong. Give it a rest!
A large number of channels covering local audiences in the US are often affiliated to a big network like NBC, ABC or CBS, but we don't have that structure in the UK, meaning that any local channel will either be showing repeats or low budget in-house productions when they're not showing news. I know some channels in the US don't have any affiliation, and instead may show syndicated stuff, but we don't have that system here either.
The in-house stuff local TV in the UK produces will then be low budget, because unlike in the US people are not used to having these local channels, and so they don't turn to them. People are used to going to the ITV and BBC for local news, or the websites of local newspapers etc, because that's how it has always worked, and as much as you protest to the contrary old habits die hard.
Your point about 'coverage complexity' being a weak argument is rubbish. It is bloody difficult for any one service to cover an area such as London, because of how devolved all the councils are and how things don't happen consistently council to council. You talk of how LA is full of smaller cities, but how well covered are these smaller places? I suspect that, much like people living in rural parts of BBC and ITV regions, they also think that they aren't particularly well covered by big broadcasters covering a large patch. Likewise, because they're used to the system of good local news, they may be very well covered. But that isn't how it works here.
All in all, you can say as much as you like that local TV is awful here because US broadcasters are fantastic and wise and wonderful, but you're wasting your breath. You consistently fail to put across convincing arguments as to why local TV should work really well here, and when people disagree you tend to roll your eyes, belittle the member involved and repeat why you're right and everyone else is wrong. Give it a rest!
I will give my opinion and join the conversation just like you. I can choose to respond to a statement or agree with another poster if I so choose. Whilst I appreciate your 4 paragraph dissertation on why you think you're right and Im wrong, I dont agree. Thats why its a discussion forum. Yet you tell other specific posters to "give it rest" and their comments are "rubbish" they are "wasting their breath" when people disagree with you. Pot calling the kettle black. Its interesting that you know think you know everything about how North American broadcasting works, but posters from other countries cant know or understand how UK broadcasting works or anything about it. I disagree.
I hope your day gets better. [Hugs]
But the thing is... while I'm sure you're a lovely human (ignoring the highly condescending end to your last post), you're coming to the conversation with a mis-framed understanding of the context of how the infrastructure of local broadcasting works in the UK.
Up to a point, that's not your fault, but when you willfully refuse to take on-board input from people who know - and can explain - more than you about the topic at-hand and your best argument essentially becomes: "It's my right to be the loudest voice in the room even if I'm factually wrong", that's actually counterproductive to the conversation to which you're trying to contribute.
Speaking as a Brit who spent his teenage years in Boston (Mass) and ran a website about the local news industry there which regularly big-footed the two sizable local newspapers on media stories, I know both eco-systems well, so while I don't wish to wade into the merits (or lack thereof) of either side of the discussion, I will leave it at this:
The dismissal of the primacy of expertise is responsible for a lot of messed-up stuff in the world right now, but above all, for the coarsening of discussion and debate across all kinds of platforms. Sometimes yielding to others' knowledge actually adds weight to one's own voice in the future.