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BFI to digitise 100,000 British TV programmes

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GE
thegeek Founding member

Are we not at the stage where there could just ram in the tape every 10mins and have over 20 machines recording at once?

We are, but these tapes aren't. They won't be on handy cassettes that can just be 'rammed' into machines.

Also VT machines from the sort of era we're taking about needed supervision and considering the age of them now will probably need some upkeep

I suppose it depends what it's on in the first place - going back to something on the Beta family, then a Flexicart will take care of a lot of the grunt work of sticking tapes in machines for you. (As I discovered in a past life, the annoying bit then becomes finding the right box for the right tape when you're unloading it).
PI
picard
What will happen to the tapes, will they be destroyed?

Also does anyone know how the digital copies will be stored, will they be backed up, will there be offline backups?
JA
james-2001
To be fair, what happens to the tapes themselves isn't important, it's the content on them- as long as that's saved I doubt it matters if the tape itself ends up in the bin. I don't think they'll be wanting to store tens of thousands of decaying tapes in obsolete formats when there's no need to anyway.

And I'd find it hard in this day and age to believe there'd be no backups! As I said before, if they have it in a file-based format, then making copies is a piece of cake really.
PI
picard
Yep if the tapes are falling to bits.

I have always been curious how organisations store their content, BBC etc.

One would hope there are multiple backups online and offline.
IS
Inspector Sands
Does bfi have links to the local archives?

Here's a list of the various regional film archives:
http://www.bfi.org.uk/britain-on-film/regional-national-archives
IS
Inspector Sands

I suppose it depends what it's on in the first place - going back to something on the Beta family, then a will take care of a lot of the grunt work of sticking tapes in machines for you. (As I discovered in a past life, the annoying bit then becomes finding the right box for the right tape when you're unloading it).

No the annoying bit is when the Flexicart can't remove a cassette because the tape has wrapped itself around the heads..... or tries to put a cassette into a machine and misses the hole or drops the tape...... I hate any sort of robotic cart tape machine!
OM
Omnipresent
I can't quite get the gist of the article.
Does it mean that the BFI are digitising private collections, non-itv/bbc, that are still analogue such as Kaleidoscope and TV-am? Or are the 2 inch collections at bbc/itv still not complete?


The BFI has long maintained its own archive of UK television and to this day continuously records the main UK channels so I assume this its own archive.
BL
bluecortina
I can't quite get the gist of the article.
Does it mean that the BFI are digitising private collections, non-itv/bbc, that are still analogue such as Kaleidoscope and TV-am? Or are the 2 inch collections at bbc/itv still not complete?


The BFI has long maintained its own archive of UK television and to this day continuously records the main UK channels so I assume this its own archive.


Do they record everything? I have a dim memory that when I visited the recording set up in the mid 80's at Berhamstead that they recorded a comprehensive selection. I'm happy to be corrected of course.
BR
Brekkie
It's not the mid-80s anymore though.
OM
Omnipresent
I had thought they simply record everything but here is what is on the BFI website:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/archive-collections/about-bfi-national-archive/acquisition

Quote:
Under the terms of the 1990 Broadcasting Act (renewed and extended in the 2003 Communications Act) the BFI National Archive is the official National Television Archive, as designated by Ofcom. The Archive is funded by broadcasters to select material from the current output of ITV, Channel Four and Channel Five, recording off-air to broadcast (currently digibeta) and viewing (DVD) standard for preservation and access. The copies we acquire are exactly as they were seen by the public. We currently select about 12.5% of output, including main daily news bulletins, major fictional and factual programmes and a representative selection of everything else. We record this as regular complete days of output, with all commercials, promotions and so on. Complete initial digital capture has allowed us to be more selective in recent years.

We also have an agreement with the BBC, which has an obligation to preserve its own output, to provide access to all BBC programming, and we record viewing standard copies of all BBC channels. Broadcasters are also keen to offer us specific material, especially on obsolete video formats, from which we make selective acquisitions. Our long-running campaign, Missing Believed Wiped attempts to locate and recover programming ‘lost’ from the official archive collections, with irregular, but often spectacular success.
BR
Brekkie
So the commercial channels all pay the BFI to archive their most important materials yet still more often than not seem to head to Youtube if somebody dies.
BL
bluecortina
So the commercial channels all pay the BFI to archive their most important materials yet still more often than not seem to head to Youtube if somebody dies.


I think perhaps we've established that not everything on the commercial channels is recorded. Plus, it doesn't mean that recorded materials are immediately available on request and it may take time for previously archived material to be made available. I would think the back office functions of the bfi were very much 9 to 5.

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