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(February 2016)

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IS
Inspector Sands
I do remember a feature on Points of View in the early 90s about the archive and Anne Robinson said something along the lines of "only around three of our POV programmes are kept each year", which even then I found hard to believe.

Makes sense really, what good are old episodes of Points of View?
WH
Whataday Founding member
I do remember a feature on Points of View in the early 90s about the archive and Anne Robinson said something along the lines of "only around three of our POV programmes are kept each year", which even then I found hard to believe.

Makes sense really, what good are old episodes of Points of View?



Actually, whenever there are documentaries charting the history of certain television programmes, clips of things like POV and Open Air are often used, so I doubt the three programmes story is true.
IS
Inspector Sands

Actually, whenever there are documentaries charting the history of certain television programmes, clips of things like POV and Open Air are often used, so I doubt the three programmes story is true.

Three a year would still give plenty of clipshow fodder, presumably just the most interesting ones were kept
WH
Whataday Founding member

Actually, whenever there are documentaries charting the history of certain television programmes, clips of things like POV and Open Air are often used, so I doubt the three programmes story is true.

Three a year would still give plenty of clipshow fodder, presumably just the most interesting ones were kept


But relevant to specific programmes?

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SC
Si-Co
Do we still hear "last episode in the present series"? There seems to be a tendency to use "season finale" or "season final" these days.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Si-Co posted:
Do we still hear "last episode in the present series"? There seems to be a tendency to use "season finale" or "season final" these days.


Or just not mention it at all and wrap up with "we'll see you next time/again on <insert name of programme>".

On a similar note there used to be the whole "see you next week" sign-off, depreciated somewhat in favour of "see you next time". Likewise "see you next year" at the end of a series has vanished as well.
WH
Whataday Founding member
"See you next time" is a producer guideline, mainly to make it easier for when the programme is sold to the likes of UKTV and internationally. I don't think it should be allowed for BBC programmes - the programme should be made for its intended transmission and they shouldn't be thinking about the prospect of it going to a commercial channel during production. Likewise we now get a lot of BBC programmes with random stings 11 minutes in, to make it easier to edit for commercial use.
VM
VMPhil
There's a common tactic now not just in programmes on commercial TV but on the BBC too to start a segment, then leave us on a cliffhanger of sorts and do a 'coming up' bit and sting, before returning to that segment later on in the programme. I assume this is also to make it easier to edit for future distribution and to keep the viewer watching the entire show, but I wonder if this has always been a feature of BBC shows or it just a modern day technique?
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A former member
Especial on the 45min bbc show which can be sold off to othe channels, sky or international.
IS
Inspector Sands
"See you next time" is a producer guideline, mainly to make it easier for when the programme is sold to the likes of UKTV and internationally. I don't think it should be allowed for BBC programmes - the programme should be made for its intended transmission and they shouldn't be thinking about the prospect of it going to a commercial channel during production.

That's not the only reason though, it helps with scheduling on BBC channels. Handy when they show just a one off episode as a repeat (like they do with Would I Lie To You) or split the series in half (like they do with Dragons Den).


It saves confusing the viewer or requiring the continuity announcer to intervene during the credits
WH
Whataday Founding member
"See you next time" is a producer guideline, mainly to make it easier for when the programme is sold to the likes of UKTV and internationally. I don't think it should be allowed for BBC programmes - the programme should be made for its intended transmission and they shouldn't be thinking about the prospect of it going to a commercial channel during production.

That's not the only reason though, it helps with scheduling on BBC channels. Handy when they show just a one off episode as a repeat (like they do with Would I Lie To You) or split the series in half (like they do with Dragons Den).


It saves confusing the viewer or requiring the continuity announcer to intervene during the credits


Hmm, I'm sure it's no coincidence that this has become more prevalent in the multi-channel age.
IS
Inspector Sands

Hmm, I'm sure it's no coincidence that this has become more prevalent in the multi-channel age.

But the schedules of the main channels have changed in the multichannel age. Things are far less fixed and regular.

As I say a series like Dragons Den or Antiques Roadshow are now split into two. Daytime shows are scheduled seemingly at random and comedy shows are used as fillers.

You didn't get that as much in the past. Programmes would run for fixed regular runs and then be replaced by another series. Entertainment shows were contracted for two showings - with 1 repeat, they couldn't just chuck them out anytime they wanted
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 31 July 2016 11:33am

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