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Markymark
JCB posted:
This has all been explained but people only hear what they want to hear - it will all be over by June. Everything else, ie reality, is dismissed as scaremongering.

I am going to assume you're talking generally and not directing this specifically at me, since I never referred to scaremongering and merely politely questioned whether there would still be a need for distancing once the UK population has received the vaccine, especially when the government 'roadmap' appears to suggest that, should everything continue to progress as expected, the plans are to lift ALL restrictions in June.
For a huge number of people, the past year has really taken its toll mentally, and it's incredibly important to have a light at the end of the tunnel to look forward to as a coping mechanism. If you can see an end in sight, you can tell yourself that things are getting better and there's reason to be positive. That's why people are latching onto the proposed June 'deadline', because it's helping them get through this horrendous period.


The June date, is a useful target, but shouldn't be thought of as any great step change. It can't be, there are still massive unknowns in the equation.

Can I recommend the Horizon programme shown last week on BBC 2. It puts all the factors (the good and bad ones) into proper perspective,but you won't come away from it feeling all is doom.
HC
Hatton Cross
The coloured blocks on the backdrop are odd. Could be for 3 reasons - none of which were really needed.
1) It's to hide the blue sky all the time, when clearly the weather in London isn't that good all the time.

2) To enforce the fact that Piers and Susanna are not sitting that close together, so the blocks of colours disappear at the screen split - even though they've done a cracking job with the spilt over St Pauls Catherdal.
The irony of course here is that whilst GMB get it so right, the lack of a view of SPC in the early morning gloom from Studio 7 at TLS was one of the reasons that was Daybreak Ver 1.0 was being continually bashed for.

3) To hide the 'screenlines' caused by the cameras picking them up from the backdrop screens, when the angle isn't 'flush' straight on. I noticed the screen resultion lines (I'm sure our tv engineering friends here will have the techhie term straight to hand) appearing couple of times this morning behind Piers, and the flying blocks, did cover up that fairly well when moving past it.
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DavidWhitfield
Can I recommend the Horizon programme shown last week on BBC 2. It puts all the factors (the good and bad ones) into proper perspective,but you won't come away from it feeling all is doom.

Thanks, Mark. Funnily enough, I watched this exact programme on iPlayer last night, and found it to be excellent. They struck a great balance, I think, between providing hope while remaining factual and rational. A great recommendation, much appreciated.
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dosxuk
I've said for ages that I think ITV news should have a massive re-brand, utilising GMB studio and include more on screen graphics like GMB does, but when I mentioned it on here before I got shouted down haha.


The only way this will happen is if GMB moves to the ITV News studio. ITN aren't going to be relocating to TVC so neither are their flagship bulletins.
BR
Brekkie
No reason for ITV News to move at the moment, though it is a useful back up studio if they can't use ITN for some reason, though I think Millbank is still used for that, and likely easier to power up at short notice.
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FraserGJ
One thing on the coloured blocks on the backdrop - in the video Laura posted on Twitter (posted a few pages back), the moving blocks are 'itv news' themed with the logo floating around - instead of the mixture of colours.

I'm guessing the blocks change with the segments, an extension of the studio lights (purple for entertainment, orange for breaking news etc)
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TVViewer256
One thing on the coloured blocks on the backdrop - in the video Laura posted on Twitter (posted a few pages back), the moving blocks are 'itv news' themed with the logo floating around - instead of the mixture of colours.

I'm guessing the blocks change with the segments, an extension of the studio lights (purple for entertainment, orange for breaking news etc)

Yes - the blocks had the ITV News logo and were teal coloured from 6-6.30 with Charlotte.
UN
Universal_r
Is that also some new lighting above the big screen?
Not a huge fan of the blocks on the screen they just seem a bit random and don’t really fit.
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alexjac0788
Flux posted:

Do you know what, I’m so used to it by now that I hardly question it. In fact, I now find a lot of recent archive where people are sitting next to each other looks incredibly cramped. When Strictly did their “best of” show last year, I was really surprised how there was so little room behind some of the old judges’ desks - all 4 judges looked uncomfortably close to each other! In the same way, I find it looks completely natural to have the hosts sat apart on GMB now, and I expect this new desk may make it look even more natural since it will have been planned with the extended spacing in mind. Strange how perceptions and expectations change.

The only regular show where I find it does feel awkward is This Morning - I guess due to it being at odds with the “cosy” nature of the set and presentation.


I'm completely the opposite - distancing makes for uncomfortable viewing IMO, but I agree that it is much more noticeable on programmes such as This Morning, as well as SNT.

It feels like a treat when, for example, TM show a throwback to pre-Covid times and no one's having to worry about 2m!

Hopefully, social distancing will only be around for a few more months.


I think it will remain 'best practice' for a long time, if not forever. Covid isn't going to suddenly disappear overnight in a puff of smoke, but we will learn to manage it


I don't see why that would be the case; it should just come down to common sense. If someone has a cold, for instance, then you generally won't get too close to them, as has always been the case. Things like floor markings and perspex screens really won't be necessary for much longer IMO.

Flux posted:

I think [social distancing] will remain 'best practice' for a long time, if not forever.

Will it, or does it just feel like it'll be ever-present after a year of experiencing nothing but this?
I know it's not exactly the same, but pre-2020, in extreme cases, people died of bad cases of the flu in winter and this was accepted as a sad inevitability. You didn't see people sitting metres away from each other every time the weather dipped below a certain temperature just in case one of their colleagues had it.
I'm not downplaying the seriousness of COVID-19, especially as I personally am one of the people deemed at high risk should I contract it, but now there are vaccines, and once the people who are offered them/want to take them (as per flu vaccines every year) have these, I can't see why there'd be an expectation that social distancing would need to continue in the longer term.


Oh you’re completely right, it will go away as a strict requirement. But as Markymark says, I can see the government keeping it in place as “recommended” and “best practice” for a long while. If that’s the case, TV presentation may be expected to keep up the example.

Apart from the wide shots this morning though, it’s hardly noticeable on GMB any more. Kudos to the designers.


I don't even think they'd be recommending it much after the summer. It'll be a case of those wanting to continue with distancing will just avoid busy places, such as peak-time trains and packed pubs, and those who are happy to live normally will do so.

As for TV, why would they need to keep this up? People will soon be sitting next to each other on public transport again, so why wouldn't presenters be sitting next to each other to reflect this normality?
I'm not expecting folk to be snogging one another on the first day, but I don't see a problem with hugging and being at a normal distance.

I think for many social distancing will be a thing for a long while, it's become so natural to do after a year. When I've been out on walks and at work it seems to have become natural behaviour for the majority of people.

It might not be legally mandated but it'll be around for a lot longer. Also remember 'the roadmap' is just a plan based on conditions, obviously I hope it all goes to plan but who knows what will happen in the next few months, it's not exactly been handled that well so far.

Jonwo posted:
All this talk about social distancing makes me wonder if Piers might end up having the vaccine on air or as a recorded segment given he's the right age to get it done within the next month or so.

I think it might be too late in the rollout for that, so many of us have had it that it's not particular a big deal him getting done. Besides is anyone going to be encouraged to get it by having seen Piers has had it? He's hardly the Queen


Some people will choose to be extra cautious from now on, but I don't see why TV would have to reflect this. In the same way that some people may continue wearing masks, many won't and will want to see that return to full normality.

JCB posted:
This has all been explained but people only hear what they want to hear - it will all be over by June. Everything else, ie reality, is dismissed as scaremongering.

I am going to assume you're talking generally and not directing this specifically at me, since I never referred to scaremongering and merely politely questioned whether there would still be a need for distancing once the UK population has received the vaccine, especially when the government 'roadmap' appears to suggest that, should everything continue to progress as expected, the plans are to lift ALL restrictions in June.
For a huge number of people, the past year has really taken its toll mentally, and it's incredibly important to have a light at the end of the tunnel to look forward to as a coping mechanism. If you can see an end in sight, you can tell yourself that things are getting better and there's reason to be positive. That's why people are latching onto the proposed June 'deadline', because it's helping them get through this horrendous period.


The June date, is a useful target, but shouldn't be thought of as any great step change. It can't be, there are still massive unknowns in the equation.

Can I recommend the Horizon programme shown last week on BBC 2. It puts all the factors (the good and bad ones) into proper perspective,but you won't come away from it feeling all is doom.


Current rates suggest that the vaccine rollout could be completed by 31 May. 3 weeks after that is 21 June. I don't see why that date isn't an reasonable expectation for a return to normality.
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CA
Castries

Current rates suggest that the vaccine rollout could be completed by 31 May. 3 weeks after that is 21 June. I don't see why that date isn't an reasonable expectation for a return to normality.

I don't disagree with your target date, but the current roll-out rate will have everyone vaccinated by mid July (1st dose) then finished in mid October (2nd dose). I think there will be a big acceleration of vaccinations, but it hasn't happened yet and the Government have been pessimistic so far.
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TVViewer256
The discussion here is nice, respectful and civilized (much more needed in politics), but I'd suggest that we keep political chat to a minimum. Some of the current conversation is justified as it's referring to social distancing measures in TV however let's not take it any further.
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Markymark

Current rates suggest that the vaccine rollout could be completed by 31 May. 3 weeks after that is 21 June. I don't see why that date isn't an reasonable expectation for a return to normality.


The key to normality is herd immunity, with the current efficacy of the vaccines, and using an unrestricted measures r number of 3, in order to to reach that threshold, over 90% of the population will need to have been vaccinated. Take up is less than that, because for a number of reasons a significant number are refusing to be vaccinated.

However, with all that said, and assuming we will fully open up international travel, then we're still not safe, until the rest of the world have also reached herd immunity.

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