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five dumps ITN

and appoints Sky (March 2004)

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A former member
[quote="Larry Scutta"]
Altowers posted:
One of the big diffrences between the ITN and Sky contracts is that now if five (or Channel 4) want to use a piece of footage from elsewhere in ITN (such as ITV news) they have to pay for it. WIth Sky everyything, including the reporters will be aviaiable to them


Not necessarily, Larry. Five News are allowed to run things once used on ITV which for them isn't bad. It only applies to regional material and because five has its own camera teams, is a very rare requirement.
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Altowers posted:


Well I drop in and out of five news and the numerous studio changes and music changes have annoyed me quite a bit! I just feel the image of five news and five in general has gone down rather than up and this is possibly due to the large number of rebrands of the news and the channel itself. People cant relate to it anymore! The brand was strong when people were originally turning over for the films at 9pm and you mightve caught 2 short news summaries throughout the duration of the film - subconsciously people were getting use to the style and pace of the news.

Whereas now the current music is tacky and the studio looks cheap. I still cant actually see what Sky can actually do to five news to make it better!


The channel's rebrands are decided by the channel. There will be just as many under Sky.
BO
Boleto
Now that five have awarded SKY their news contract, I suppose their sport content will be a lot greater. SKY Sports is always linked into SKY News, so will five be able to use their sport footage for free?
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MarkN Founding member
Boleto posted:
Now that five have awarded SKY their news contract, I suppose their sport content will be a lot greater. SKY Sports is always linked into SKY News, so will five be able to use their sport footage for free?


Five, like any other news broadcasters, can use small clips of footage from any sports broadcaster for free, thanks to the Sports News Access Code of Practice:

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From: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/policies/producer_guides/text/section7.shtml

The main UK broadcasting organisations have signed an agreement governing the use of each others sports footage in news programmes. Programme makers working in this area should consult the Sports News Access Code Of Practice
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There's more about Nick Pollard hitting out at ITN here, but the scariest thing is that it would be very tragic if Sky won the Channel 4 News contract in 2007, although perhaps Jon Snow's vow to stay at ITN would stop that happening. Also Channel 4 News is so brilliant that Channel 4 would be mad to change.
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Reporteur posted:
Not necessarily, Larry. Five News are allowed to run things once used on ITV which for them isn't bad. It only applies to regional material and because five has its own camera teams, is a very rare requirement.


Regional material isn't ITNs in the first place so that's fair enough. There are big restrictions on what Channel 4 News and five news can use - despite being made by ITN they must pay for any ITN archive material for example... and there is very little material originally chot for/by ITV news
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Larry Scutta posted:
Regional material isn't ITNs in the first place so that's fair enough. There are big restrictions on what Channel 4 News and five news can use - despite being made by ITN they must pay for any ITN archive material for example... and there is very little material originally chot for/by ITV news


Not strictly true. As a long-time employee of ITN, I can tell you ITN outlets DON'T have to pay to use archived material. Librarians put library for free as and when they are requested and there are a number of clipped items containing library already on the server. C4 and C5 can run regional material for free once it has aired on ITV1. They can run ITV1's own shot material at will depending on whether ITV's news editor give them permission. That is a 3-way thing. Sometimes, ITV will want to run our stuff at C4 as will C5 and sometimes, we and C3 will want to run what C5 have shot and it is up to the discression of the news editor!
But, to reiterate what I said, we DON'T have to pay to run archived ITN stuff - unless it is:
a) Marked "clear for reuse" in which case we have to pay the individual who shot it or
b) Agency material. There are tighter restrictions on reusing agency. I can't list them off the top of my head, but they can;'t be too suffocating as I don't ever recall them getting in the way of any of us doing our jobs
c) Library regional material - we can only reuse regional material within a 24 hour period.
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Londoner
Matt Wells' media show on LBC is about to discuss the Five News/Sky News deal with Chris Shaw

He's also promising "first news of a big name signing for Channel Five" but whether that's in the news arena or not it wasn't clear
LO
Londoner
Matt Wells has just revealed that Alistair Campbell has been signed up to present an interview show on Five. They're also making a fly-on-the-wall documentary about him.
RT
rts Founding member
James Hatts posted:
Matt Wells has just revealed that Alistair Campbell has been signed up to present an interview show on Five. They're also making a fly-on-the-wall documentary about him.

I was reading about this one of today's papers. It said Five was also hoping that Campbell's contact book could pull in people such as Tony Blair and George Bush for interviews, and even a "Jeremy Paxman style showdown" with Greg Dyke...

The article also quoted Campbell as saying he chose Five due to their "unpretentious" approach, lol.

51 days later

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Sir Richard Rotcod
From the Evening Standard's Media Diary

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Anyone with a spare load of happy pills is asked, please to deliver them to Channel Five news's headquarters on Gray's Inn Road. Morale there is at an all-time low, with the Sky takeover from ITN, which has supplied bulletins to Five since the channel started, only months away. "No one has smiled here for weeks," says one insider, "except for Kirsty Young. But Kirsty's keeping her job. The rest of us are doomed."
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Moz
Hope they don't get rid of the music - though I think they will.

I think it's one of the most innovative themes in years, quite haunting and attention grabbing.

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