RO
I'm told, in answer to my own question, that in a programme looking at STV's news programme Scotland Today, there was brief footage of David Glencorse reading some news, with the sign behind reading "Scottish News East". I didn't realise that Scotland Today, in the 80s, was split east and west.
MK
It might have been a local roundup within the programme. Granada Tonight did something like that in the early 90s, where they briefly threw to reporters based in Manchester, Lancaster, Chester and, I think, Blackburn. Was almost certainly a ruse to help achieve franchise renewal and didn't last long
MK
I believe TVS even had separate continuity for its two parts, like HTV. Not sure if it was full time or not nor how long it lasted but it seems it was a thing. I recall seeing on YouTube, a programme trailer referring to being on "TVS in the South". I can't remember what it was advertising but I think it was something network.
Certainly TVS had separate weekday afternoon editions of the Coast to Coast People chat show for the south and southeast.
I believe TVS even had separate continuity for its two parts, like HTV. Not sure if it was full time or not nor how long it lasted but it seems it was a thing. I recall seeing on YouTube, a programme trailer referring to being on "TVS in the South". I can't remember what it was advertising but I think it was something network.
NW
Whilst I don’t remember the round ups, Granada did have newsrooms in Lancaster, Blackburn and Chester for a good number of years. They’d closed down by the time ITV plc came into effect.
Granada Tonight from the time they relocated back to Manchester (1992 I think?) always had a News update from Liverpool. That stopped when all of the News presentation was located back to Manchester in 1998.
It might have been a local roundup within the programme. Granada Tonight did something like that in the early 90s, where they briefly threw to reporters based in Manchester, Lancaster, Chester and, I think, Blackburn. Was almost certainly a ruse to help achieve franchise renewal and didn't last long
Whilst I don’t remember the round ups, Granada did have newsrooms in Lancaster, Blackburn and Chester for a good number of years. They’d closed down by the time ITV plc came into effect.
Granada Tonight from the time they relocated back to Manchester (1992 I think?) always had a News update from Liverpool. That stopped when all of the News presentation was located back to Manchester in 1998.
MK
I think the roundup thing was a flash in the pan. Around the time they set them up. I can't remember the exact format, though they made a big deal of them until they received their license renewal confirmation.
They moved Granada Tonight to Manchester in October 92, seemingly because they wanted to change to a sofa-style programme. This was inspired from Granada Tonight Weekend which they did on Fridays in the This Morning studio during the summer when This Morning took a break. There were throws to the news studio for bulletins within that too. Presumably, it was impractical to use the This Morning studio whilst the programme was on a run and the news building presumably couldn't practically house both the news set and a sofa set.
I think the news bulletins from Liverpool within Granada Tonight actually stopped in the short-lived January 98 revamp. All other bulletins continued to be done in Liverpool until the further revamp in October 98, when it was all moved to Manchester and Shop! channel launched in the Liverpool studios.
They moved Granada Tonight to Manchester in October 92, seemingly because they wanted to change to a sofa-style programme. This was inspired from Granada Tonight Weekend which they did on Fridays in the This Morning studio during the summer when This Morning took a break. There were throws to the news studio for bulletins within that too. Presumably, it was impractical to use the This Morning studio whilst the programme was on a run and the news building presumably couldn't practically house both the news set and a sofa set.
I think the news bulletins from Liverpool within Granada Tonight actually stopped in the short-lived January 98 revamp. All other bulletins continued to be done in Liverpool until the further revamp in October 98, when it was all moved to Manchester and Shop! channel launched in the Liverpool studios.
CO
Tyne Tees made a few complete programmes on a sub-regional basis, particularly in the early 1990s. They even made epilogues sub-regional for a while in the early 1980s.
Continuity was a little awkward for these as there was no facility to split this.
There didn't seem to be much of a reason for some of these programmes to be put out this way, especially as they would sometimes be repeated across the whole area. I got the feeling some of it was corporate willy-waving in all honesty. It tended to be fairly low key stuff - in 1990 for example North got a series of short films made by local filmmakers while South got a series of studio debates about issues in and around Teesside. They went out at 11:30pm on Sundays.
Things like PSAs, Crimestoppers and the like were also often sub-regional.
With the duel regions were there any splits beyond the news. I could imagine some sports coverage being split in the Central region for example.
Tyne Tees made a few complete programmes on a sub-regional basis, particularly in the early 1990s. They even made epilogues sub-regional for a while in the early 1980s.
Continuity was a little awkward for these as there was no facility to split this.
There didn't seem to be much of a reason for some of these programmes to be put out this way, especially as they would sometimes be repeated across the whole area. I got the feeling some of it was corporate willy-waving in all honesty. It tended to be fairly low key stuff - in 1990 for example North got a series of short films made by local filmmakers while South got a series of studio debates about issues in and around Teesside. They went out at 11:30pm on Sundays.
Things like PSAs, Crimestoppers and the like were also often sub-regional.
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BE
I believe TVS even had separate continuity for its two parts, like HTV. Not sure if it was full time or not nor how long it lasted but it seems it was a thing. I recall seeing on YouTube, a programme trailer referring to being on "TVS in the South". I can't remember what it was advertising but I think it was something network.
I think the TVS in the South thing was just àn general emphasis on the region. But there was separate continuity when TVS first launched. Didn't last all that long.
There were a few programmes split for South or South East and at least one Arts series that was split for the Thames Valley area, although they were largely the same programme with separate local listing etc.
Ben
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Certainly TVS had separate weekday afternoon editions of the Coast to Coast People chat show for the south and southeast.
I believe TVS even had separate continuity for its two parts, like HTV. Not sure if it was full time or not nor how long it lasted but it seems it was a thing. I recall seeing on YouTube, a programme trailer referring to being on "TVS in the South". I can't remember what it was advertising but I think it was something network.
I think the TVS in the South thing was just àn general emphasis on the region. But there was separate continuity when TVS first launched. Didn't last all that long.
There were a few programmes split for South or South East and at least one Arts series that was split for the Thames Valley area, although they were largely the same programme with separate local listing etc.
MA
I believe TVS even had separate continuity for its two parts, like HTV. Not sure if it was full time or not nor how long it lasted but it seems it was a thing. I recall seeing on YouTube, a programme trailer referring to being on "TVS in the South". I can't remember what it was advertising but I think it was something network.
I think the TVS in the South thing was just àn general emphasis on the region. But there was separate continuity when TVS first launched. Didn't last all that long.
There were a few programmes split for South or South East and at least one Arts series that was split for the Thames Valley area, although they were largely the same programme with separate local listing etc.
Yes, I recall a Thursday night arts show, where the 'what's on' segment was split three ways.
As said continuity at prime time was split for a few months after launch in 1982. The facilities TVS inherited from Southern had split playout for South and SE, I've seen mention in here years ago that there were two pres VO/IVC studios at Northam?
Certainly TVS had separate weekday afternoon editions of the Coast to Coast People chat show for the south and southeast.
I believe TVS even had separate continuity for its two parts, like HTV. Not sure if it was full time or not nor how long it lasted but it seems it was a thing. I recall seeing on YouTube, a programme trailer referring to being on "TVS in the South". I can't remember what it was advertising but I think it was something network.
I think the TVS in the South thing was just àn general emphasis on the region. But there was separate continuity when TVS first launched. Didn't last all that long.
There were a few programmes split for South or South East and at least one Arts series that was split for the Thames Valley area, although they were largely the same programme with separate local listing etc.
Yes, I recall a Thursday night arts show, where the 'what's on' segment was split three ways.
As said continuity at prime time was split for a few months after launch in 1982. The facilities TVS inherited from Southern had split playout for South and SE, I've seen mention in here years ago that there were two pres VO/IVC studios at Northam?
SW
Central also did split continuity for the East and West Midlands for a bit. Even though they would be introducing the same programmes nine times out of ten they presumably decided on it as a cheap and effective way of illustrating to both sides of the regions they were now doing a more local service.
When TVS began their regional news was split in a rather strange way, they did an hour from 5.30 to 6.30 incorporating the News at 5.45. The first fifteen minutes would be from each half of the region, then after the national news, they would go pan-regional, before going back to the sub-regions for the last ten minutes. As Independent Television in Britain points out, this ended up being more trouble than it worth, technically it was a bit of a mess and if there was a particularly big story you might end up hearing about it three times in just over half an hour, in the sub-regional news, the national news and the pan-regional bit, so by the end of the year they reverted to more conventional news bulletins.
Of course, Granada's regional round-ups were broadcast to the entire region as they only had one transmitter, but Westcountry did sub-regional news bulletins within their programme, I remember on holiday in Cornwall watching them cross to their Barnstaple studio for a summary.
When TVS began their regional news was split in a rather strange way, they did an hour from 5.30 to 6.30 incorporating the News at 5.45. The first fifteen minutes would be from each half of the region, then after the national news, they would go pan-regional, before going back to the sub-regions for the last ten minutes. As Independent Television in Britain points out, this ended up being more trouble than it worth, technically it was a bit of a mess and if there was a particularly big story you might end up hearing about it three times in just over half an hour, in the sub-regional news, the national news and the pan-regional bit, so by the end of the year they reverted to more conventional news bulletins.
Of course, Granada's regional round-ups were broadcast to the entire region as they only had one transmitter, but Westcountry did sub-regional news bulletins within their programme, I remember on holiday in Cornwall watching them cross to their Barnstaple studio for a summary.
MA
When TVS began their regional news was split in a rather strange way, they did an hour from 5.30 to 6.30 incorporating the News at 5.45. The first fifteen minutes would be from each half of the region, then after the national news, they would go pan-regional, before going back to the sub-regions for the last ten minutes. As Independent Television in Britain points out, this ended up being more trouble than it worth, technically it was a bit of a mess and if there was a particularly big story you might end up hearing about it three times in just over half an hour, in the sub-regional news, the national news and the pan-regional bit, so by the end of the year they reverted to more conventional news bulletins.
I never saw the SE side of that arrangement, but it looked messy enough in the South. Didn't help that for much of 1982 TVS were using the tiny Dover studio inherited from Southern, it didn't seem much bigger than a broom-cupboard. During Southern's tenure it was only used for 30 mins on a Wednesday and Friday, and the hard news element was done from Southampton anyway I think ?
When TVS began their regional news was split in a rather strange way, they did an hour from 5.30 to 6.30 incorporating the News at 5.45. The first fifteen minutes would be from each half of the region, then after the national news, they would go pan-regional, before going back to the sub-regions for the last ten minutes. As Independent Television in Britain points out, this ended up being more trouble than it worth, technically it was a bit of a mess and if there was a particularly big story you might end up hearing about it three times in just over half an hour, in the sub-regional news, the national news and the pan-regional bit, so by the end of the year they reverted to more conventional news bulletins.
I never saw the SE side of that arrangement, but it looked messy enough in the South. Didn't help that for much of 1982 TVS were using the tiny Dover studio inherited from Southern, it didn't seem much bigger than a broom-cupboard. During Southern's tenure it was only used for 30 mins on a Wednesday and Friday, and the hard news element was done from Southampton anyway I think ?