Big Brother (UK) - may be axed

Thousands, as it says at the top of the column. First figure is the +7 audience, in 000s, second figure is the +28 audience, in 000s.

+7 is audience after 7 days, including time shift, catch-up etc., and +28 the same after 28 days.

This is increasingly important for bigger shows (call the midwife on Christmas Day got something like a 50% increase when +7 came out and ended up beating Mrs Browns Boys I think)

The first set of figures look to be overnights (which will only contain very close-to-transmission catch-up viewing within the same 24 hour period) and are millions.

(It's not unusual for ratings to be listed in 000s to save writing extra 000s and to keep tables neat)

So they are simply catch up figures which explains why they're only in the thousands compared to the big brother figures in the millions?

No the figures in the second table are definitely in millions, add 000 to the end of each figure and that’s the rating.

So on air and on demand consolidated figures in their millions. I think I get it now.

http://deadline.com/2018/01/endemol-c5-dispute-big-brother-uk-cancellation-claims-1202265146/

C5 and Endemol still in negotiations about BB.

No surprise there, probably similar to the Neighbours situation not long back where Channel 5 looking to not spend more than they have to.

I’m surprised everyone took the Daily Star as gospel on this.

It would have come back somewhere sooner or later. Probably on Channel 4. It’s too big a brand to just be forgotten about.

It seems to be getting good for Channel 5 ratings, it appeals to an audience Channel 5 is keen to capture and it allows them to launch other programming off the back of it.

It’s easy to say something was past its sell by date just because you don’t watch it anymore, but the reason a programme lives and dies is if it makes sense to keep making it.

Noggin was right in saying they are in thousands, meaning 2,478 is two thousand four hundred and seventy eight thousand thousands. It's just easier to think of it as "multiply this figure by 1,000", or stick three zeroes on the end.

The Daily Star is about as reliable as a US president but when it comes just months after the C5 boss saying he'd rather it wasn't on his channel and when you look at how different the C5 schedule is outside of the BB series it's not difficult to see why it rings true. C5 have basically damaged the show beyond repair now - even this series which on the whole has been well received by the fans still watching just hasn't seen any uplift in ratings - and 1.5m viewers an episode for Big Brother is unlikely to be more profitable than half the amount for a benefits documentary.

Maybe this deserves its own thread. (Although it does seem that for a while, C5's identity was hugely bound up in Big Brother - and I imagine that there are still people on Endemol with good contacts at the Star from their days under common ownership.)

Anyhow, wonky audio aside, this recording of the first UK BB in 2000, when it was at Three Mills in east London, shows just how innocent the show was then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0G6OX6din0

Maybe it just got too naff in the end.

I think Channel 5 is keen to move on from the Benefits and Big Brother image and actually they stopped commissioning benefits show as they stopped rating well and they started commissioning and showing more serious factual like The Accused, there is some slightly low brow stuff like the docs on Soham or Shannon Matthews or Can’t Pay, We’ll Take it Away but they’re balanced with more serious content like The Accused, the various history programmes or things like Coast to Coast etc