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BBC One/BBC Two fallen off air: 15/12/09

15/12/09 - 17:10 - BBC One and Two Off Air - Followed by Technical problems later in the evening... (December 2009)

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incentro
The video posted on Page 2 doesn't appear to work!
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Steve in Pudsey
The 6pm junctions on BBC 1 and BBC 2, as described here, would indeed lead you to believe that they came from the DR site, allowing engineers to get on with sorting the problems in the Broadcast Centre.


Thanks for those insights. If the playout servers at the main playout centre had failed, would they be able to remote control the ones at the DR site and treat them as an outside source, or would it be a lock, stock and barrel move to the DR site? (If security reasons mean it's not possible to go into that level of detail I won't be offended!)

Actually, scratch that - if it was just playout that had failed, a live programme like Newsround wouldn't have fallen off air.
IN
incentro
BBC One: Normal 2009 Christmas pres. now back in use.
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Worzel
The video posted on Page 2 doesn't appear to work!


Works for me OK.
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Markymark

Actually, scratch that - if it was just playout that had failed, a live programme like Newsround wouldn't have fallen off air.


Indeed, my money would be on the main central router, as that 'looks after' sources and destinations for all 4 BBC TV channels ? I assume there are smaller routers purely for emergency 'cut-bussing' of critical sources, News Studio, VTRs, CGs ?
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Steve in Pudsey
But in that case they could have easily rejoined Newsround, as it comes from TC7?
RO
robertclark125
In the late 1990s and some of the 2000s, they used to switch control to Birmingham. Does this not happen anymore?
CH
Chie
BBC One has just fallen off air during Newsround... BBC Two also went off air as well - what happened?

Karma.
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Steve in Pudsey
In the late 1990s and some of the 2000s, they used to switch control to Birmingham. Does this not happen anymore?


Not since the demise of Pebble Mill, although I understand that the Mailbox has a role in getting to the Disaster Recovery facility on air. The new DR facility is more more extensive and less cobbled together than Pebble Mill's emergency solution.
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Worzel
In the late 1990s and some of the 2000s, they used to switch control to Birmingham. Does this not happen anymore?


As far as I'm aware there still is the facility to do that.
TV
archiveTV
The 6pm junctions on BBC 1 and BBC 2, as described here, would indeed lead you to believe that they came from the DR site, allowing engineers to get on with sorting the problems in the Broadcast Centre.


Thanks for those insights. If the playout servers at the main playout centre had failed, would they be able to remote control the ones at the DR site and treat them as an outside source, or would it be a lock, stock and barrel move to the DR site? (If security reasons mean it's not possible to go into that level of detail I won't be offended!)

Actually, scratch that - if it was just playout that had failed, a live programme like Newsround wouldn't have fallen off air.



Newsround didn't fall off air.

Both BBC1 and 2 got to the end of their programmes and when they tried to go to the next item both ran black
IS
Inspector Sands
In the late 1990s and some of the 2000s, they used to switch control to Birmingham. Does this not happen anymore?

They didn't 'switch control to Birmingham' as such - Pebble Mill was just where standby programming came from if nothing could come from London. However there were no dedicated facilities there to suddenly 'switch' to so that programming could continue straight away

There is a totally different (and more modern) back up these days

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